The FINALE of Spooky Penis Season, and the finale of the Re-Animator franchise (so far), we give you Beyond Re-Animator (2003)!
As you can see, we sadly had to skip Bride of Re-Animator (1989) (no male nudity), but we pick right up 13 years later with Beyond Re-Animator (2003), this time helmed by the great Brian Yuzna! We didn't think there would be a lot to say about this film, simply because it's not amazing, but we were wrong. Animatronic rats, dancing penises, and nanoplasms intermingle to provide an adequately amusing finale to the Re-Animator series. Joined, once again, by Josh Martin of Uncomfortable Brunch and Orlando Pop Up Movie Services, we are ready to tango.
Speaker A: Can you hear that?
Speaker B: Well, I heard it then. Yeah, uh, when you stopped talking.
Speaker A: Dogs upset.
Speaker C: Yeah.
Speaker B: Dog's annoyed. Well, he won't stop pissing on people.
Speaker A: He's gross.
Speaker B: Yeah.
Speaker A: Well, hello there. Welcome to On the BiTTE, the podcast that uncovers full frontal male nudity in cinema. Ah, my name is Laura, and it's a special day because this is the finale of Spooky Penis Month, or Freaky Phallus Friday. Right, Ryan?
Speaker B: Yeah, but mhm I don't know if I want to adopt the Freaky Phallus Friday thing.
Speaker A: All right, let's strike it from the record.
Speaker C: Yeah.
Speaker A: Spooky penis month.
Speaker D: Yeah.
Speaker B: I mean, I probably prefer that.
Speaker D: It's better.
Speaker A: It's classic.
Speaker D: Yes.
Speaker C: Yeah.
Speaker B: For only the second time that we've done it yet, it would be referred to as classic. At this point.
Speaker A: It's canon.
Speaker B: It's, uh, whatever.
Speaker A: Uh, not only are we joined by my co host Ryan, we also have Josh Martin returning, uh, to get right back into the meat.
Speaker B: Can't get rid of them, eh?
Speaker E: You keep asking me back and I just, uh, happen to have nothing going on in my life.
Speaker D: That's very true. Yeah.
Speaker B: No, we'll point that out. We do ask you to come back.
Speaker E: Because we've built oh, I thought you were going to reinforce.
Speaker C: Yes.
Speaker E: You are very boring. And we understand that you have no reason to do it.
Speaker B: Look, if you bring the jokes, it's fine. That's the only stipulation I have for guests.
Speaker E: That's fine. Uh, I think I'm funny.
Speaker B: I think you're funny.
Speaker C: Yes, you do.
Speaker D: Yeah.
Speaker B: We all think we're funny.
Speaker A: I know I am.
Speaker A: So we are all here. We're joined for the end of Spooky Penis Month to continue on in the Reanimator series, which we had to skip one, obviously, because it was all about the women. Yeah, it was ladies time.
Speaker E: And all about spooky. Spooky tits.
Speaker A: Yeah. Spooky boobies.
Speaker D: Spooky boobies.
Speaker E: I don't like that. That's gross.
Speaker C: Boobies. I hate it.
Speaker A: We're here for the 2003 horror comedy Beyond Reanimator.
Speaker B: Is it funny?
Speaker A: I said comedy.
Speaker D: Okay.
Speaker A: It is.
Speaker D: All right.
Speaker A: Oh, no, this movie is funny. Uh, starring funny Jeffrey Combs again, of course, reprising his role. Jason Barry as Dr. Howard Phillips. If you guys remember, if he looked familiar, it's because he was Leonardo DiCaprio's friend from Titanic. Do you remember him?
Speaker E: No.
Speaker A: They got the ticket. They got the ticket for the Titanic and they were going to go and then he drowned because they were poor.
Speaker D: Right.
Speaker A: From Titanic.
Speaker D: Yeah.
Speaker C: Okay.
Speaker A: Well.
Speaker B: No, I didn't his career really.
Speaker E: Took off in the seven years between Titanic and Beyond Reanimation.
Speaker A: He's Irish.
Speaker D: Uh, yeah.
Speaker B: Well, I mean, the only Titanic movie I remember is well, it's a knight to remember it's in the title. You're meant to remember it. Titanic is just kind of fodder.
Speaker E: That's true.
Speaker A: What?
Speaker B: Titanic is just fodder?
Speaker D: Yeah.
Speaker A: Uh, explain that to 13 year old Laura, who had at least three, if not four Titanic posters on her.
Speaker B: Well, you just bought into the hype. That's the thing. Like, Titanic is one of those I.
Speaker A: Bought into the leo.
Speaker D: It's like, here's that age.
Speaker E: He would have bought into you, too. Not anymore.
Speaker B: No, not anymore.
Speaker E: You are way past the expiration date.
Speaker A: Don't say way. Don't say way past at least ten years.
Speaker B: At least that decade shit. He will not have anything to do with you.
Speaker A: Makes me really sad.
Speaker B: You're not young enough.
Speaker A: I don't know if I'm into and.
Speaker B: By young, I mean 25. Yeah, there's nothing funny going on there. No, I mean, I think, like, Titanic is the, uh, cinematic representation of gruel.
Speaker A: Gruel.
Speaker B: Gruel.
Speaker A: Yeah, like the porridge.
Speaker B: Fucking porridge. It's like, here you go. Consume this, you fucking ape.
Speaker B: So here it is.
Speaker A: It's really good that you brought up prison because this movie is set in.
Speaker D: I can't believe I did that.
Speaker A: Elsa Pataki is in this movie. Uh, and her name is Laura. Her character's name is Laura, which I love because that's my name. And there's not enough Laura's in the movies. But every time I hear a i, like, get very excited.
Speaker C: Yeah.
Speaker B: There's a lot of screaming of Laura in this movie.
Speaker A: Well, because the, uh, doctor is constantly screaming at nurses or anyone that's around Laura. Yeah, but do you know who? I didn't realize who she was until I started doing the research for this movie, but she's married to Chris Hemsworth.
Speaker B: Okay.
Speaker A: Did you know that?
Speaker E: No, I didn't.
Speaker A: That is Chris Hemsworth's wife. Chris Hemsworth is her husband.
Speaker D: Right.
Speaker E: I wouldn't expect that he'd have an age appropriate wife. Good for, um, him.
Speaker A: I think he seems like a solid.
Speaker C: M.
Speaker B: I mean, he definitely looks like a stiff breeze wouldn't blow him over, that's for sure.
Speaker A: That sounded like it was meant to be sexier than it was.
Speaker B: No, he looks like he's stiff.
Speaker D: He looks pretty stiff.
Speaker B: Yeah, he looks pretty hell yeah. He looks like he's belt.
Speaker A: She was also in four Fast and Furious movies, you guys. She played one of the agents and she had sex with Vin Diesel. And had Vin Diesel's baby in those.
Speaker E: Huh huh.
Speaker C: Mhm.
Speaker A: She played yelena Elena.
Speaker E: I can see that now. Okay.
Speaker A: Yeah. It all just kind of I can.
Speaker E: Piece that together generic looking she shows.
Speaker B: Up in Fast Five, right?
Speaker A: Yes, she does.
Speaker D: Yeah.
Speaker B: When the series started to get interesting.
Speaker A: Even more amazing than it already was. And she's dubbed in this movie, is she not? She's like, dubbed weird. Yeah, she's definitely been she's a Spanish actress. They filmed this?
Speaker C: Yeah.
Speaker E: This is also filmed in Spain. That's the only reason it got produced.
Speaker A: Yeah, it was like, internationally co produced with Spain.
Speaker B: If you weren't aware of like you.
Speaker D: Just look at the credits list and.
Speaker B: It'S basically all Spanish names. All Spanish crew.
Speaker C: Yeah.
Speaker A: Well, that's cool.
Speaker C: Yeah.
Speaker B: No, well, she's over. She's overdubbed. Um, would we say well, at least it looks like it's in sync, but, I mean yeah. Uh, she's overdubbed with a terrible, terrible American voice. Yeah, it's awful.
Speaker A: Did you not agree, Josh? Did you not notice it?
Speaker E: I'm thinking about it, like oh, yeah, I guess that makes sense. It's not something that I found distracting, though. I didn't notice it while watching it.
Speaker A: Because I don't think it's her acting that's weird.
Speaker D: I just think it's the she's also.
Speaker B: Kind of surrounded by people who are incredibly wooden, other than Jeffrey Combs, uh, National Treasure, who's effectively doing what he's good at, um, which is eating up everything. Yeah.
Speaker E: It'S all standout performances because they're all not very good. Yes.
Speaker A: Except for the warden.
Speaker E: Yes, the warden is great.
Speaker B: He's, uh, nice and animated. Yeah, it's pretty gross. Yeah, you can't see the wood from the trees in this movie. It's all relatively quiet.
Speaker E: Yeah. We'll get into the quality of this film in a minute.
Speaker E: I imagine Laura finish here, but I have some things to say.
Speaker A: Yeah, that is true. I actually need to get Ryan to jump on that. Brian yezna yes. Is that how you pronounce his last name?
Speaker D: Yasna?
Speaker B: I'm going to assume he was he was born in is it Manila? It was like, in the Philippines. That's where he's from. Um I'm going to say Yazna.
Speaker E: You see, I always pronounced it Yuzna, but I could definitely be wrong. I usually am. He follows me on Instagram, though, which.
Speaker A: No, he does not.
Speaker E: He is. Yeah, he liked something that I posted praising society or something once.
Speaker A: My gosh.
Speaker C: Yeah.
Speaker E: Nothing but big celebrities. Him and, uh, Diana Prince and Pat Healy. Those are my celebrity follows.
Speaker D: Yeah, that's not too bad.
Speaker A: It's better than follow Pat on Letterboxd.
Speaker E: Well, he follows me back, though.
Speaker A: Yes. You know, no, I'm just because, uh.
Speaker E: An okay friend directed him in, uh, Pale Door. And so there's a connection there.
Speaker D: Wow.
Speaker A: Celeb, look at you.
Speaker B: Yeah. The only one I had on Instagram and I'm not particularly proud of it is Paul Haggis.
Speaker E: Nice.
Speaker B: Yeah, it's just photos of him, like, in coffee shops, like writing things.
Speaker E: I actually just saw the director's cut of Crash at the pawn Shop for $3, and I didn't buy it.
Speaker B: Yeah, that's the kind of movie I wouldn't want to see more of.
Speaker E: No.
Speaker D: Yeah.
Speaker E: I, uh, maybe fixed it. Maybe I'm wrong. Maybe I'm being cynical.
Speaker A: Gotta go back.
Speaker E: Maybe it's not shallow.
Speaker B: It's not it's not the deepest of movies.
Speaker A: Tell me about Brian.
Speaker B: Brian?
Speaker A: Um, we haven't done Brian.
Speaker B: No, we've not done a Brian yet. We've not done the brian.
Speaker D: The do this, um.
Speaker B: Think or at least I'm not too sure. I don't think there's any more after this one, uh, for Yasna.
Speaker C: Okay.
Speaker B: Um, and I've not seen all of his stuff. Um, obviously the most notable, I think, of his films is society. Um, but let's carry on.
Speaker B: Um, so Brian Yasna is the producer and a director and a writer. And let's just say he's best known for producing the work of Stuart Gordon. And obviously a lot of those movies are adaptations of H. P. Lovecraft Stories. Um, so I have here, he's best known for science fiction and horror movies. And obviously, um, as well as producing Stuart Gordon's stuff, he's also kind of produced the films for Christopher Gans and, uh, Louis Dilla Madrid as well. Um, and also here I have down that he was the co writer. And I'm sure we said this on the Fortress episode. He's the co writer for Honey. I shrunk the kids as well. Um, which I'm sure we brought up when we did Fortress back in the time. I love fortress.
Speaker A: I love Rick Moranis.
Speaker B: One of the more notable things here, and this is maybe a little bit nerdy, but he is the first American filmmaker who, uh, penned the first adaptation of a manga into a live action movie. The manga was called, uh, BioBooster armor Guyver. Um, the Guyver movies. Oh, yeah.
Speaker E: I didn't know that he wrote those or adapted those.
Speaker B: He produced them. Oh, he produced them. So he was the person who brought the first mag adaptation to a live action stage. And at least the first one, I think the first one's pretty good. Um, and obviously that one's helmed by Screaming Mad George, the special effects guy, and obviously, uh, another guy called Steve Wang who directed that.
Speaker E: I feel like Stuart Gordon kind of, I mean, rightfully so, overshadowed a lot of his work, but some of his directorial efforts, I think, are really solid. I like the Dentist a lot. And I think that The Return of the Living Dead Three, I think might be the best entry in that series. Um, I know the first one, everyone loves it, and it's great, but the third one, Weaponizing Zombies. But still, being a comedy like the military weaponizing Zombies, I think it's really funny. I think it's a really good movie.
Speaker D: Yeah.
Speaker B: Um, he's been a really prolific, uh, force. He's still making films now to this day. And obviously Stuart Gordon passed away back in 2020, I think it was.
Speaker E: I think that's right.
Speaker B: Um, so, no, he's fairly prolific, still making things, and I mean, in terms of his filmography, and obviously I'm discounting the produced stuff because that list is quite endless. Um, and a lot of those films we've kind of already pointed out before when we've covered Stuart Gordon. Um, but, yeah, in terms of his directorial stuff, we have, obviously, Society, which is his debut, technically, uh, in 1989. Um, after that he does the sequel to, obviously, Reanimator, which is Bride of Reanimator, which was in 1990. Then it's Silent Night. Deadly night. The same year. Return of the Living Dead 393 Was.
Speaker E: It three or four?
Speaker B: It's probably four.
Speaker E: I've not written the number with Clint Howard. Yes, it is. It's really good. It has nothing to do with christmas.
Speaker C: Yeah.
Speaker B: I don't know why I don't write the numbers down on the sequels. Because obviously he didn't do the original, obviously. Um, Night of the Living Dead Three, which was in 93. The, uh, Dentist, that was 96. And obviously the sequel in 98. And then we have is that see, I've written it down, and it literally looks like it looks like I've just written down Poogie.
Speaker D: Yeah.
Speaker B: I have no idea what that film is. It came out in 98.
Speaker A: Love that you can't read your own handwriting.
Speaker B: Um, well, it is literally like I've written something and then I've written on top of it two other times to try and correct it. And now I can't read it.
Speaker A: It's like that episode of Seinfeld where he wakes up in the middle of the night and writes a really funny joke. The funniest joke he's ever written.
Speaker D: Pro.
Speaker A: And then he wakes up.
Speaker E: Progeny.
Speaker B: Progeny.
Speaker D: There we go.
Speaker B: See, I can see it now.
Speaker A: Hold on, I'm telling a Seinfeld joke. And then he wakes up and he can't read his own joke. That's you.
Speaker C: Yeah.
Speaker B: The pig man cometh.
Speaker B: Anyway, um, in 2000, he makes Faust, which is, uh yeah, it's another adaptation of the classic story, which I quite like that film. I quite like that version. Um, and then we get to beyond reanimator in 2003. He's working on stuff all the way up to 2013. But the list is the list actually.
Speaker E: Has a film in development right now bringing back Corbin Burnson from the dentist as the plastic surgeon.
Speaker C: No.
Speaker E: Nice. It's been in development for a very long time. Who knows if it'll ever happen? I hope it does.
Speaker A: That sounds great.
Speaker E: Dentist movies. Fucking rule.
Speaker C: Yeah.
Speaker B: There's a bunch of stuff on the Wikipedia where he's obviously had things in development that have just not come to fruition, or they've come to fruition in a different form or another.
Speaker E: Right.
Speaker B: Um, but yeah, no, he's still around. He's still working.
Speaker E: He and Gordon wanted to have a fourth reanimator for a very long time. They even brought William H. Macy on board. Um, because Gordon had worked with him. With Edmund.
Speaker D: Yes.
Speaker E: And I'm sure I think he had probably worked with him in theater as well, in the same way that he worked with Jeffrey Combs. I could be wrong about that. There was the whole Stuart Gordon David Mamet world sphere. And with the actors related well, yeah.
Speaker B: We watched Edmund quite recently.
Speaker A: Yeah.
Speaker E: That's a joyful movie.
Speaker D: That movie is.
Speaker B: Uh I'll put hair on your chest.
Speaker A: That movie pretty great.
Speaker C: Yeah.
Speaker B: No, I don't know.
Speaker E: Julia Styles is memorable.
Speaker A: Oh, my God. Um, the Dentist is, uh, something that's been on my watch list on my letterbox for ages. And it just popped up on Tubi.
Speaker C: Oh, did it?
Speaker E: Because I just bought the DVD. Because it's been out of print for ages.
Speaker A: Yeah, it's one of found it kind.
Speaker E: Of cheap and ordered it it's one.
Speaker A: Of those classic ones that I remember specifically walking through Blockbuster, walking through Hollywood video and seeing that cover. And I'm like, I need this.
Speaker E: Dr. Giggles was another one that had a cover like that.
Speaker A: Oh my gosh, I remember those horrible dentist movies. I really want to watch it again.
Speaker B: Yeah, I can't remember if I've seen it or not. I genuinely can't remember.
Speaker A: I almost put it on last night and then we watched that horrible documentary.
Speaker B: I've got a funny feeling tonight we're either going to watch Society, you get to see it for the first time, or we can watch the Dentist. I've probably seen the dentist, though.
Speaker D: Yeah.
Speaker B: Society is very much, uh, well worth mean. I would agree with Josh in that I think Yusna does get overshadowed a little bit by Stuart Gordon just because a lot of the focus ends up on the director a little bit. But I like to kind of see them more as a double act where one will make a movie and the other one's kind of making a movie. And then they'll help each other out to kind of meet in the middle as well, because obviously they're writing together as well. So I don't like to see it as a competitive nature to it because neither one of them makes at least in my opinion, neither one of them makes bad films or they've not made bad films. They're what they are. I mean, you could say that Beyond Reanimator isn't a great movie, but it's still pretty entertaining. And there's some really interesting shit in it. Uh, that I think I think definitely it shines a little bit more than, say, other horror movies of the time or even horror movies now.
Speaker E: He's very good with working with, uh, his special effects artists. By keeping because by the time I mean, 1990, with Bride of Reanimator, it makes sense that it was still practical because digital effects just weren't really there for low budget movies. But by 2003, he could have cheated a lot of that and he didn't.
Speaker A: No, that's what makes it look so good.
Speaker B: Yeah, there's some really clever stuff in beyond, um, and it's nice and goopy, and it's gooey and it's really violent and it's kind of comedic. There's some stuff in it that I quite appreciate, even if a lot of the framework of the movie is a bit stale, I guess.
Speaker A: Okay, well, before we get into the stale, I want to give the synopsis of the movie that I grabbed from Letterbox.
Speaker B: Good.
Speaker A: Because I haven't done that yet. And I'm sure everyone listened to Reanimator. So you kind of know what we're dealing with. But here we are.
Speaker B: The chronicles of Herbert West.
Speaker A: Once ah, again tampering with Mother Nature to disastrous results, dr. Herbert west continues his research while serving time in a maximum security prison for his previous exploits, west's limited prison cell experiments are suddenly interrupted by the arrival of a new prison doctor and the brother of the girl who suffered from West's experiments 13 years earlier. Just before we move on, the tagline is, they thought prison would be the death of him. But for Dr. West, death is only the beginning, which is the same as in The Mummy Ride.
Speaker C: Okay.
Speaker D: Uh.
Speaker B: I mean, that's a line from the movie anyway.
Speaker A: It's a classic line. Death is only the beginning.
Speaker B: Death is only the beginning.
Speaker A: The mummy. I wish there was a penis in that movie.
Speaker B: That's fine the way it is. Not everything has to have a cork in it.
Speaker A: So, um, for that synopsis, I think that's fairly straightforward. I mean, the movie basically opens with it looks like a babysitting situation where you got a hot babysitter. Classic. And for whatever reason, this man just shows up with half his face gone and a lot of tongue.
Speaker B: Well, he's missing his jaw.
Speaker A: Missing his jaw. A lot of tongue.
Speaker E: Yeah, the animatronic tongue.
Speaker A: It's pretty good.
Speaker D: I thought that she was cool.
Speaker A: It is cool. You were talking about the wet, the.
Speaker D: Kind of I love that bit where.
Speaker B: He just takes the milk and he, like, tries to drink the milk and.
Speaker E: He has no lower jaw.
Speaker B: He's got no lower jaw, so it's not working.
Speaker E: He leans his head way back to try to get it down his throat. It doesn't really work. But before the no lower jawed, reanimated man bursts into the room.
Speaker B: Reanimated?
Speaker E: Yes. This whole hot babysitter thing with the two young boys feels very inappropriate.
Speaker A: It is.
Speaker C: Yeah.
Speaker E: Uh, she kind of wrestles with one of the boys and his head is between her knees.
Speaker A: Isn't he down there? He's down there between her legs when the dude comes in.
Speaker C: Yeah.
Speaker E: And you can see up her skirt the whole time.
Speaker B: But then we find out later she's doing a Daryl Hannah, uh, from Blade Runner.
Speaker D: M. Yeah, that's what she's doing.
Speaker C: Yeah.
Speaker E: But then we realize that it's not just the babysitter, it's their siblings, which is very upsetting. I don't know. Um, I mean, I'm all for incest, but this went a little too they're a little young. He was a little young, yes. A little too Florida school teacher.
Speaker A: My God.
Speaker D: Yeah.
Speaker B: Try your best not get your sister pregnant. Try, uh, your utmost best, please.
Speaker A: Well, the reanimated man took care of that for them.
Speaker B: Yeah. Rihanna, me, Ted, as I decided to call him.
Speaker A: Like Ted.
Speaker C: Yeah.
Speaker A: Reanimate Ted.
Speaker D: No, Rihanna.
Speaker B: May Ted. Well, his name was Ted and he was reanimate. Ted.
Speaker A: His name was Ted.
Speaker B: No, I just made that up. I just thought it was funny.
Speaker E: Did you really pay attention to the credits? Like, oh, Ted. There's a joke there.
Speaker B: Rihanna made ted.
Speaker D: Well, I don't know.
Speaker B: I thought he's going to have a name. Well, everyone's going to have a name, probably. Um, no, I like it when the cop comes in and he just shoots the milk bottle. Yeah. The milk is making him insane.
Speaker A: Why were the cops even there? Were the cops following the situation? Because I assume outside you've got this.
Speaker B: Wasn'T the first house that the Reanimated had broken into.
Speaker A: And where is west? Like, I assumed he was was he.
Speaker E: Like hiding in the bushes?
Speaker A: Yeah. Was he just like, injecting people in the bushes?
Speaker E: I feel like he probably had his house was nearby. Yeah, that was probably the deal. Uh, they don't go into that.
Speaker A: He just never gives up.
Speaker B: Yeah.
Speaker E: Well, this is supposed to be like, right after Bride of Reanimator, I believe, because it says 13 years later. And the movie's made in 2003. So 1990 would make sense. Right, when Bride of Reanimator came out. Kind of get it? Uh, it's a bit of a stretch, but yeah.
Speaker A: Um, it's just weird that they're in this neighborhood. Classic sleepover babysitter situation. And then this Reanimated dude just rocks up and hitherto inspiring a young boy to become a doctor somehow, even though it was his fault that his sister died.
Speaker B: Well, it's perfectly normal for a young boy to take, uh, a needle, a.
Speaker E: Random syringe that he finds in the ground that the cops did not notice, by the way, as they're putting Herbert West in the back of a police car.
Speaker A: Yes.
Speaker D: I thought it would have been properly.
Speaker A: Frisked decent amount of evidence. Yeah. No topper on it or anything. Just an open needle.
Speaker D: Well, let's put this very sanitary.
Speaker B: When the cop walked in and he shot the milk bottle, I don't know if we're going to have much in the way of like he was just waiting to unload. I mean, he probably didn't ask, uh, him the suitable questions. Like, have you got any sharps on you? And he's like, I don't think know. Just pulls out a needle and just gives it to a boy, as you do in Scotland. That's not unheard of.
Speaker D: Wow.
Speaker A: Yeah. That is rain.
Speaker E: Fuck.
Speaker B: Yeah, I can hear it.
Speaker A: So this little incident in the beginning of the film before even the title card comes up, is the impetus to put him, uh, in prison in a death row prison, even though I don't know if he technically did any murdering. So I don't know what his charges are for putting him on death row. Because they never explained why. Just because of the things that he's done. Because of his experiment.
Speaker E: Probably the grave robbing. Because he does mention that his previous assistant turned State. It's evidence, uh, against him.
Speaker A: Right?
Speaker B: Because that's what Bride was all about, wasn't it? Where he was like getting body parts.
Speaker A: Do you get put on death row for grave robbing?
Speaker E: Depends on how much how many how.
Speaker A: Many graves you rob, uh, how many bodies you stole.
Speaker D: Yeah. I don't know.
Speaker B: It sounds better in the movie if you're on death row, means there's a.
Speaker A: Time limit because he's not even on just death row. This entire prison is built just for people that are on death row. So it's a prison for death row inmates, uh, which doesn't exist. Um, except for in this film.
Speaker B: No.
Speaker D: Well, yeah.
Speaker B: The centerpiece of this prison is the electric chair.
Speaker A: That glorious electric chair.
Speaker D: Yes.
Speaker E: So this could either be set in Spain or in Florida.
Speaker A: Yes.
Speaker E: Or Texas, I suppose. But we like we had old Sparky. We had a cute name.
Speaker A: Yeah.
Speaker E: Shit's fucked.
Speaker D: Well, yeah.
Speaker B: Didn't Ted Bundy get Putin old Sparky?
Speaker E: Sure did.
Speaker D: Yeah.
Speaker B: There you go.
Speaker A: Wow.
Speaker C: Yeah.
Speaker D: Look at me get you. Yeah.
Speaker A: This movie is very, very early 2000s. There's a lot of, uh, bleach blonde hair and a lot of highlights.
Speaker B: A lot of frosted fucking tips going on in this movie.
Speaker A: I think my dad was the last kind of vestige of this frosted tips thing. I think my dad was getting his hair highlighted to like 20.
Speaker D: Well, the thing is, I would have said never give up.
Speaker B: Uh, there were so many blondes in.
Speaker D: This movie, was like there was like.
Speaker B: A really strong alienation sect. But the doctor and the journalist are also blonde as well.
Speaker A: It was that scene where they had sex and you saw that dude's butt.
Speaker C: Yeah.
Speaker B: He does that two pump jump thing.
Speaker A: Yeah. Rolls off. He's all sweaty, fucking hairy ah ass.
Speaker D: It was pumps.
Speaker A: It really bad.
Speaker B: If you want to take bits and.
Speaker D: Pieces out of it. That bit's not very good.
Speaker A: I think we both, while we were watching it earlier, went, uh, and that's.
Speaker E: Like the only opportunity in that movie for any decent female nudity. And they really screwed the pooch on that, too. I don't know. It was a bad angle for her fake breasts.
Speaker A: I wasn't going to bring it up.
Speaker E: Yeah. I'm not objectively opposed to that. But there's more flattering ways to show.
Speaker B: Them.
Speaker A: Balloon m. Yeah. It was, ah, a very strange angle. Very strange shadows.
Speaker B: Um, but I'm sure she's a lovely woman.
Speaker D: She's very.
Speaker A: Yeah, she seems like she has a kind heart as a human being.
Speaker D: Yeah.
Speaker E: That don't I blame Brian and whoever the cinematographer should have.
Speaker A: They did her dirty because I didn't know what that was when I saw it at first. I go, what is that? I didn't realize it was a boob. Yeah, it was like an arm or something. Uh oh my god.
Speaker B: It's a shame it does not go down on the pantheon of good, uh, sex scenes in movies.
Speaker E: Especially because Barbara Crampton's nudity is so good.
Speaker E: Just legendary.
Speaker B: There are boobies in this movie, though.
Speaker D: They do tick that box and they.
Speaker B: Do a castle freak reference. The boobies that we do end up seeing, which is the assistant nurse who he just screams at constantly.
Speaker A: He's always yelling at her, uh, wherever.
Speaker B: That bald dude's guy is called.
Speaker A: Because he was the first person experimented on in the prison. Right. That very tall, bald guy.
Speaker D: He had a heart attack. He's sharing a cell with the Danny Trejo pretender, uh, who's obviously not Latin American, because there are certain things that he says as he's meant to have an accent. Like, uh, he's kind of like the white man's, Danny Trejo. The way he says certain things a certain way.
Speaker A: Pandejo.
Speaker D: Pandejo. Essay.
Speaker A: Come on over here. Essay.
Speaker D: Yeah, it was kind of pulled you.
Speaker B: Out a little bit.
Speaker A: I like that guy because that guy has the coolest thing later in the movie where his I know I'm jumping around, but where his whole bottom half? It's okay to jump around and he's flying around.
Speaker D: Because the thing is, every time we bring up a scene, we'll be like, oh, uh, we don't really like that. But then it relates to something that ends up being better later on. Because I think you josh said something. You said you only really stay for the first ten minutes and the last ten minutes.
Speaker E: That's really those are the high points for me in the movie.
Speaker A: I agree.
Speaker E: Um, I mean, there's some funny bits in the middle, but really because the star of this movie really is Screaming Mad George.
Speaker D: Yeah.
Speaker E: The, uh, visual effects artist who worked on society and a lot of Yuzna's, um, Yuzna's work. Um, so I think that that's really where he shines are in those moments.
Speaker A: I think the star of this film is ratty. The rat.
Speaker C: The little rat.
Speaker D: Ah, yeah. The rat that magically changes color from the beginning of the movie to the end of the movie.
Speaker A: He's great.
Speaker D: Yeah.
Speaker A: He's a great actor. And I really liked his performance.
Speaker D: It starts off gray, then turns black, and then just stays black.
Speaker A: I think rats, everyone, uh, if they have kids, should have rats as pets instead of hamsters and dribbles and stuff.
Speaker D: Okay.
Speaker A: I'm just saying that because I used to have rats and they're really nice pets.
Speaker D: Yeah. They're hyper intelligent.
Speaker A: They're very nice. Yeah, that was a weird thing.
Speaker E: Anyway, I'll tell you a fun story about euthanizing a rat after we're done recording.
Speaker D: No, don't. We've heard that story before.
Speaker C: Oh, good.
Speaker A: Okay.
Speaker E: It's a good story. You're the one that keeps bringing rats up around me. And I have one really good rat story.
Speaker D: I know, but you told us it before.
Speaker B: We just heard it.
Speaker A: Anyway, with the rats. Um, we're going to talk way more about that rat anyway, because he is the star of our penis scene later.
Speaker E: That's true.
Speaker D: It's quite sad when you're outplayed by a rat, uh, through the course of the movie.
Speaker A: There was this part that I was just thinking about where the new Dr. Howard comes into the prison because he's doing his, uh, what's it called when.
Speaker D: You'Re a new doctor?
Speaker A: Residency at the prison, which is very fun. And then you have the reporter, which.
Speaker D: Is Laura, at the prison, which is very fun.
Speaker C: Okay.
Speaker A: Very fun place to. Do your residency with the weird warden.
Speaker D: Who is surrounded by death row inmates? Yeah, it's very fun.
Speaker A: I still think, uh, he was planning to work there specifically because of Herbert.
Speaker C: Right?
Speaker E: Yeah.
Speaker A: That was his mo. To meet his hero.
Speaker D: His main source of inspiration was to become a doctor so that he could then become a scientist.
Speaker E: I feel like there's probably easier ways to meet Herbert West.
Speaker B: Probably, yes.
Speaker E: Uh, even in an all death row inmate prison, I'm sure they're still allowed visitors occasionally.
Speaker D: I mean, you could write him a letter.
Speaker B: You could write him a letter.
Speaker D: You could do what many others have done. Um, weren't specifically in the FBI. But you'd be like, I'm writing a book. I want to go talk to this.
Speaker A: And he's been on death row for 13 years.
Speaker E: Yeah.
Speaker A: Seems like a long time.
Speaker D: I mean, that happens.
Speaker E: That happens. I think that's actually the most realistic part of this movie.
Speaker D: Yeah, I would agree. That does happen.
Speaker A: Do you remember in that film we watched recently, law Abiding Citizen with Gerard Butler?
Speaker C: Fuck.
Speaker D: Yeah.
Speaker E: Great film.
Speaker A: They have the trial, and within 24 hours, he's getting lethally injected. Remember that?
Speaker D: They didn't mess around in that film.
Speaker E: Fast Tracked.
Speaker B: Just get it done.
Speaker A: You get fast tracked in Philly.
Speaker E: Is that an F. Gary Gray movie?
Speaker C: Yeah.
Speaker E: Yeah, it is.
Speaker D: Uh, it I saw it, uh, that opening weekend. I went to go see it. I went to go see it with my friend, and we were the only two people in the cinema. Um, and I was like, oh, I think Laurel quite enjoy this. And then obviously the start happens, and I'm like, all right. There's a lot of fucked up stuff in this film.
Speaker A: You know that as soon as a rape happens, I'm out. Like, I check out. I can't but I held on for some reason.
Speaker D: Well, that's not to say that I'm.
Speaker A: Um exactly the kind of movie I like.
Speaker D: Yeah, well, I'm not other than the rape, I'm not encouraging it within the context of the film. But I mean, it's there you got.
Speaker A: To make a villain.
Speaker C: Yeah.
Speaker D: You got to make a villain.
Speaker A: No better way than to, uh, immediately rape someone's wife in the beginning of.
Speaker D: A yeah, pretty much.
Speaker E: There's really no gray area there, I suppose. No, I mean, we didn't really hear it from his side, though.
Speaker C: Yeah.
Speaker A: You didn't get to see the whole trial, right?
Speaker D: Um, you don't know?
Speaker A: No, because they didn't do a trial. They did a plea deal. Why are we talking about this? We're talking about.
Speaker D: That movie's real good.
Speaker A: That movie is pretty good.
Speaker D: Yeah, it's real silly.
Speaker A: Okay. I was talking about when they're in the prison and it's his first day, and he has his little doctor's bag. And Laura, the reporter says, do all doctors have such a personal relationship with their tools?
Speaker D: Right.
Speaker A: Is that not, uh.
Speaker E: Mean, it's not funny, but it's funny that that's something they thought was funny.
Speaker D: Yeah.
Speaker E: Is that a double entendre?
Speaker A: Kind of is.
Speaker E: Um I like, though, that immediately after she says something to the effect of everything you say to me is going to be willfully taken out of context or something like that. And he says, well, in that case, hi. She introduced herself by saying, hello. I'm shitty at my job. Yes, I know it I don't deserve to be here.
Speaker D: Well, she's full of innuendos as it comes to be. Like she forces themselves like they have dinner.
Speaker C: Yeah.
Speaker E: The whole go for it thing. When they like, should I really?
Speaker C: Icky.
Speaker A: Um uh and they didn't eat any of the crusts on those pizzas. There was just crusts everywhere.
Speaker D: I mean, they had straight blonde hair. That's why they weren't eating their crusts.
Speaker A: Is that what happens?
Speaker E: They didn't have any ranch as far as I'm aware.
Speaker A: Oh yeah.
Speaker D: Ranch only though. That's why, you know, it was fucking dipping sauce. That's ever been known to man.
Speaker E: I mean, I'll eat some pizza crust with ranch if I need to. If there's no blue cheese around.
Speaker A: But I like the marinara.
Speaker D: Yeah, blue cheese isn't too bad. I'd rather have blue cheese than ranch.
Speaker C: Marinara.
Speaker D: M marinara garlic sauce. Okay.
Speaker C: Yeah.
Speaker D: Well, here's the thing. I remember being told if you eat your crust, you'll get curly hair. Uh, members of my family.
Speaker E: Are all your members of your family liars?
Speaker D: Well, I didn't get curly hair, but no, I mean, it's not true.
Speaker E: That is one of the weirdest old wives tales I've ever heard. I've never heard crusts.
Speaker D: Probably not your pizza crust. Probably like your sandwich crusts.
Speaker A: Did you want curly hair?
Speaker D: No, but it was just a thing. It's like an old wise thing. So like an old wise fable.
Speaker A: Right?
Speaker C: Mhm.
Speaker A: Uh, don't go swimming if you eat.
Speaker D: And you get a stitch.
Speaker A: Yeah. So you don't go swimming?
Speaker D: Well, no, I was told that. Yeah, that does happen. You can get a stitch.
Speaker A: Don't eat chocolate before bed. You'll get nightmares.
Speaker D: Yeah, same with cheese. Cheese is another one. Cheese makes your brain a little bit more active, so you may end up getting it.
Speaker E: Makes my brain more active.
Speaker D: Good old, uh, cheese.
Speaker A: I love cheese.
Speaker D: Thing is, here's the thing hungry. Well, it's down to the fact that parents will tell their kids anything just to shut them the fuck up.
Speaker A: But that doesn't make any sense. What does crust and bread have to do with curly hair? And would you want curly hair? Would you not want curly hair?
Speaker D: It's just like young mysticism. Like, here's some bullshit that an adult told me. And then you take it into your adult life yourself. And then look how I've turned out. I'm an imaginarium.
Speaker A: Wow.
Speaker D: Yeah. I'm a man of stories of all sorts of fucking horrible things. Let's carry on.
Speaker A: The next thing I have on my list is actually about the warden trying to get Laura the reporter to give him a blowy.
Speaker D: Yeah, he does that at least a couple of times.
Speaker A: Does it a couple of times.
Speaker D: And he's successful the second time.
Speaker A: Is he?
Speaker D: I mean, he gets halfway through the blowy.
Speaker A: It does go in her mouth.
Speaker D: Yeah, it, uh, does go in her mouth.
Speaker A: Someone called that a success.
Speaker D: And it leaves her mouth in a different way.
Speaker E: That's in my book.
Speaker A: Mhm. Well, I mean, that was the first time. This was the less lethal time.
Speaker D: The less lethal time of the blowjob. Yeah. Where were we?
Speaker E: Have the ambien.
Speaker A: But I do have a question for you guys to help me perhaps understand. These nanoplasms that I believe are a new thing in the reanimator universe, right?
Speaker E: Yes, they are new.
Speaker A: The midichlorians of the reanimator universe.
Speaker D: Yeah. They come into this movie and they're not really explored because there's not really a, uh, sequel to this movie.
Speaker A: No. But it's electricity and it's your, um, soul, maybe your electric soul, I would say it's the soul, your electric boogaloo that comes out when you get electrocuted and then you can put it in a little jar like fireflies.
Speaker D: Yes.
Speaker A: And it does something to maybe counteract the reanimator juice to make you less of a mad zombie.
Speaker D: Well, I think that at least that was that's. The point, though, of the zombies, though, is they have no soul. They're kind of, uh, automatons when they're reanimated.
Speaker A: So you need the nanoelectricity juice to.
Speaker D: Put the personality back into them.
Speaker C: Yes.
Speaker E: But it also functions like DNA, where it really should not be cross species. But it is in this movie.
Speaker A: Yes.
Speaker D: For hilarious effect. What happens?
Speaker A: Um, I like that a lot.
Speaker D: So what was the question about the Nanoplasm?
Speaker A: I actually was going to ask you to explain it to me and then.
Speaker D: I kept you just kind of explained it.
Speaker E: You worked it out for yourself.
Speaker A: I did. I got there. So that's cool.
Speaker C: Yeah.
Speaker D: I mean, well, the first time I saw it, I didn't really pay much attention, so I was kind of like I was like, why is the warden got buck teeth this time?
Speaker A: Yeah, he, uh, has like Evil Dead face. You know when you get possessed in Evil Dead and your face is all fucked up? That's what he looks like. But then he turns more and more into a rat. And then you were the one, Ryan, who was like, wait a minute, light bulb went off.
Speaker C: Yeah.
Speaker D: Well, I had a revelatory moment, which is like what happens when I do pay attention to things, like with shame. Like, I have revelatory moment where I was just like, if I actually pay attention to it, then I'm like, I understand it now.
Speaker A: Uh, yeah.
Speaker D: When I actually turn my brain on.
Speaker E: If only you had seen beyond reanimator in the theater for the first time.
Speaker D: I think it would have been actually.
Speaker A: Uh, that would have been incredible. And if that ever happened, it was direct to video.
Speaker E: I think it may have played some film festivals, but I think it was direct to video.
Speaker A: Well, if anyone can put it on a big screen, it is you.
Speaker E: Uh, we can do that. Yeah, I have it on Blu ray.
Speaker D: Is it in four three, or is.
Speaker E: It no, it is 16 nine.
Speaker D: Yeah, because the version we saw, it was on Tubi. It's only in four three.
Speaker C: Yeah.
Speaker D: So it's actually 16 nine.
Speaker E: I bought the DVD when it first came out in 2003 or four.
Speaker B: Okay.
Speaker E: Um and that was four three. For some reason, I lost it in a move or something like that. And it was out of print for a very long time and actually kind of expensive. And I didn't like the movie enough to spend $40 on a four three DVD.
Speaker A: Yes.
Speaker E: But then they finally did a proper Blu ray release of it. And last year I purchased it for still too much money. But, uh, it completed the collection. It was like $23 or something.
Speaker A: I was hoping it wouldn't go over 20.
Speaker E: It was a little more than it was acceptable, but it wasn't. I bought the out of print Bride of Reanimator Blu ray, though. And I spent some money on that because I'm an asshole. Yeah, I think I spent, like $50 on that. Fucker.
Speaker A: Oh, my God.
Speaker D: Yeah. We give ourselves a rule that we sometimes wouldn't go over the $20 for a movie that we absolutely adore. That just doesn't really happen in this household.
Speaker A: There's a few movies that have been sitting in my shopping cart for a long, long time because they're $20. And I know that they shouldn't be.
Speaker D: But I mean, I've bought, like, collections and stuff like that. Like that shinyasukamoto M collection I bought for because it was like a third of the price that it should be. And then, obviously, other collections that are only kind of really appropriate to me that I was like, well, that was 100. Now it's only 50. And it's like, oh, God.
Speaker E: It's still I'm dancing around that right now. There's a Herschel Gordon Lewis box set that Arrow put out that is down to $50.14. Movies all on bluray.
Speaker D: That's slightly different.
Speaker E: I'm thinking of pulling the trigger on it. But I also do I need not even the good ones, like Blood Feast, like some of the shitty movies, which there are many. Mr. Lewis made some garbage.
Speaker D: But I would say you're dividing that 14 into 50. I think it's a little bit more digestible.
Speaker E: I think so, too. You sold me.
Speaker D: Yeah.
Speaker E: All right.
Speaker E: Where's my phone?
Speaker A: I mean, we do the same thing every time. That Criterion sale goes up or whatever. You go, all right.
Speaker D: Yeah. It's not 40.
Speaker E: And I mean, I did just spend $150 on Bergman. So my art house fucking points are I think that I can level it out with some herschel. Yeah, I don't know. Still, m doesn't justify the $50 or whatever that I spent on Bride of Reanimator.
Speaker A: Yeah, because then you're going to look eventually it'll be five. Sometimes.
Speaker E: It'S the limited edition steel book. It's an investment or some bullshit. Whatever I have to tell myself.
Speaker D: It'll just be one of those things that they're just like, well, who's this going to go to when they're like emptying, uh, out your house after you've passed away?
Speaker E: Oh, I can't wait for that to happen. I can't wait to so I like the idea of somebody coming in and going through my collection like, the fuck is going on here? Why does he have Dave on DVD? But also just the absurdity of that roller coaster of actually looking through every individual title.
Speaker D: So much pornography.
Speaker E: But it's not normal pornography. Like really great restorations of 80s Japanese softcore pornography. There's like twelve of them. It's a set. Who is this for? And I won't be there to tell them.
Speaker A: Yeah.
Speaker D: No, it'll be up to them to.
Speaker E: Figure, uh, it out.
Speaker D: Yeah.
Speaker A: Jesus. Um oh, we already brought up before we get into the penis scene, right. We already brought up the castle freak nipple bite thing, which doesn't go as far as castle freak, which I wish we could do, but we can't.
Speaker D: No.
Speaker A: Well, that could be obvious reason we can't do castle freak.
Speaker D: Yeah. It's a bit spoilery.
Speaker A: You know what I'm talking about.
Speaker D: What happens there.
Speaker E: Oh, yeah, because he's a castle freak. Sure.
Speaker A: There is no nudity for a man.
Speaker E: I think you could get away with that one. It technically fits. There's pubis.
Speaker A: No. Phallus.
Speaker E: No.
Speaker D: Yeah.
Speaker E: Wow. You're, uh, Laura, uh, criteria here about it.
Speaker A: Yeah, well, that's what I'm here for. I'm the boss.
Speaker D: Yeah, well, whatever you say, dear. Um, thank m you.
Speaker A: So we have this penis scene, which is not a scene. It's almost more like the whole end of the film into the credits as well, which is pretty fantastic.
Speaker D: It kind of turns into a running joke. And then you see the conclusion of that running joke in the credit sequence.
Speaker A: So it kind of starts off at about an hour, 19 minutes and 52 seconds. And then there's little bits that go I mean, I wrote them all down. You can go to the website if you want to find every specific time weirdos.
Speaker C: Um.
Speaker D: Dear listeners.
Speaker E: Uh, are they the weirdos? You're the one that wrote down the fucking time code for how many times you see a severed penis. And beyond real, you're also the weirdo.
Speaker D: Who also has the website with all that stuff on it. I'm just here contributing jokes and cinematic.
Speaker A: That'S been doing this for over cinematic.
Speaker D: Yeah. See?
Speaker A: No, it is weird. Uh, you knew how much let's put.
Speaker D: The mirror in front of you for a change.
Speaker A: The things that Ryan's walked in on where I've got the computer going, there's a dick on.
Speaker D: There like a dick on the TV.
Speaker A: Dick on the typing furiously. What are you doing?
Speaker E: It is academic. It's not sexual. I swear.
Speaker D: Why are you sweating so much?
Speaker A: Old roommates that have walked in on me with an infomaniac just paused. And they're like, what are you doing? I'm like, I'm busy. This is work. You're right. Sweaty.
Speaker D: It is a bit. It's just well, come in. And you're like this, like cupping at your shirt and stuff.
Speaker C: Yeah.
Speaker A: Trying to get that breeze.
Speaker D: It's like, Ryan, you won't guess what. And I'm like, I'd rather not.
Speaker A: I've got crazy eyes. I'm like, there's a dick in the ants.
Speaker D: I'm going back to bed. King of the ants.
Speaker E: I believe you.
Speaker A: I'll rewind it if you want. No, dear, please stop.
Speaker D: Not interested.
Speaker E: There is one in King of the Ants.
Speaker A: Yes, there is.
Speaker D: Uh, we're going to do that one eventually.
Speaker A: We thought about doing it during this run.
Speaker D: This Halloween season has been, um, a mixed bag of which one? We had several different films and ideas that we were going to try and do for October.
Speaker A: We really skipped over some good ones to do these movies. We've got one I don't know.
Speaker D: These two are well, this is the October twofer. And I think obviously reanimaire. We already covered that one. But, uh yeah, no, we need you to do this one. I think we really need you to do it.
Speaker E: Certainly nobody else is doing a podcast on episode on Beyond Reanimator in 2022.
Speaker D: No, good for no, they're not. Yeah, good for us. Doing our fucking due diligence, bringing this film into the it's fine.
Speaker A: So we're in this section. They talk about the penis scene. I'm gonna do it. So we've got this. Nanoplasms right? And so we've got these two characters that have been reanimated. We've got the warden, and we have Laura, the reporter. And the warden has been injected with the rat. Nanoplasms and then we have Laura, who's been injected with the warden's. Nanoplasm yeah.
Speaker D: This is a lot like you need to explain a lot in order for any of this to make sense. Can we maybe try? Nanoplasms well, you did, but at the same time, uh, I'm kind of like how do we just get to the bit where there's obviously just a prison riot? People are getting killed and also injected at the same time. So there's a whole bunch of men, like, hanging off the ceilings, but they're also still alive. It's total chaos wriggling around.
Speaker A: Well, how do I explain this? You all need to watch this movie. I don't have time for this.
Speaker D: There's been a lot of killing. There's been a lot of reanimating. And some are doing more reanimating than they should do. So they're too reanimated.
Speaker A: Yeah, because you shouldn't reanimate when you're already animated. And that will cause problems. But what had happened just before is that the bald prison inmate who had done the Castle freak. He somehow was able to attack a guard. Then the other Danny Trejo esque prisoner got the keys, and so then there was a prison break.
Speaker E: So all the prisoners and we haven't even discussed speedball yet.
Speaker A: Which one's that?
Speaker E: The Tommy Chong ripoff.
Speaker A: Oh, my God. Yeah, I forgot about him. Well, I don't know.
Speaker E: It all kind of goes fine. He was not a responsible drug user. That's really all you need to say about that guy?
Speaker D: Yeah.
Speaker A: Was he the one that animated himself?
Speaker D: Ah, that's the same guy.
Speaker A: That's the guy, huh?
Speaker E: Yeah. He has, like his flesh is dripping off his face at the end.
Speaker C: Ah.
Speaker E: And he's still like, hey, man, you got any of those red pills? He's still trying to get Vicodin. Um, yeah.
Speaker A: Okay.
Speaker E: This movie is chaos. It's really actually very difficult to explain if you haven't seen it.
Speaker D: Yeah, I don't think we need to explain every single little thing. Well, there's a lot of personality swapping. There's interspecies swapping. There's more reanimating than you would expect. All kind of yeah.
Speaker A: Everyone's just shooting up bedlam juice.
Speaker E: The embody parts are still reanimated, which was a thing in all of them, but the eye still blinking or dilating even though it popped out of someone's head. Uh, which, of course, leads into the penis, which the penis is doing things that I mean, mine can't maybe mine is broken, but maybe if it was.
Speaker A: Detached from your body, it would have more freedom of movement.
Speaker E: Well, I find it's not going to grow a knuckle.
Speaker D: No.
Speaker B: And.
Speaker D: It'S also like yeah. Because once it's detached, there's no banjo string. There's nothing stopping it from being anything. It's not going to be buoyant.
Speaker A: Right.
Speaker D: You know what I mean? It's not going to be bouncing like this one. Yeah.
Speaker D: But either way, Laura, the now reanimated with the soul of the warden is giving a blowjob to the warden, who's now acting like a rat with buck teeth and shit.
Speaker C: Yeah.
Speaker A: So he is all transforming because he has the nanos juice of a rat. Because they've been doing some weird ass shit. Because you know that he likes to play his game. Herbert likes to play ah. And he never gives up.
Speaker D: He likes to fuck around and experiment. Because he's a mad scientist.
Speaker A: Yes, he is. He's a mad scientist. So you've got all these swaps happening, like you said, and as we'd mentioned earlier in the movie, the warden tries to get her to give him a blowy, and it doesn't work.
Speaker D: Gets her to bark like a dog and all this, right? Because he lost his fucking ear. His ear gets fucking chewed off. And they're in this cell.
Speaker A: Too much happening.
Speaker D: There's a lot of stuff that happens. Yeah.
Speaker A: Well, she goes downtown, his rat face gets all super excited, and then he does he does that gross thing with his face. He's just like, yeah, it's disgusting.
Speaker D: Uh huh.
Speaker A: She bites his dick off.
Speaker D: Yeah, she does. She spits it out. And then almost immediately, ratty comes in and grabs the dick.
Speaker A: The little ratty comes in and rolls rolls it away. He's like a little stop motion rat. It's so cute.
Speaker D: Like the sexy version of The Green Mile. Yeah.
Speaker E: Oh, my.
Speaker C: God.
Speaker E: I've always wondered what that movie was missing. Now I know. That could have been Tom Hanks's dick severed. Oh, who's the guy who's from Starship Troopers?
Speaker C: Right.
Speaker D: I, uh, was thinking The Other Prisoner, uh, because there's Sam Rockwell and then there's because the little mouse is like French.
Speaker C: Right.
Speaker E: I was thinking of who's a bad character in that movie? Who's a villain?
Speaker A: Sam Rockwell.
Speaker D: Sam Rockwell is the villain? Well, he's really the only villain.
Speaker C: Really?
Speaker D: Sam Rockwell. Everybody's very nice. Everyone's very, um yeah, everyone's kind of just like, we have fun.
Speaker E: I 100% I'm conflating, uh, characters from that and Shawshank. That's, uh, absolutely what's happening right now. I don't like either movie very much.
Speaker D: Oh, I know exactly who you're talking about. The other prison guard from Shawshank.
Speaker A: Yeah, I get it.
Speaker C: Okay.
Speaker E: It's fine.
Speaker A: I was going to just say that if they'd asked Sam Rockwell, it was about the time in his career when.
Speaker E: He would have taken that's true.
Speaker C: Yeah.
Speaker D: We went into a darabont void there.
Speaker A: It's okay. You guys are going to be okay.
Speaker D: Yeah, that's fine.
Speaker A: So this rat and this penis basically become best friends, uh, throughout the whole end of this movie. He's rolling him around. Mhm the penis is crawling around?
Speaker E: Yes. And it's really the credits, which I had totally forgotten.
Speaker A: Yeah, I definitely missed it when we watched it last time.
Speaker D: Well, even when the warden ends up in the electric chair because it's bound to happen and he gets fried, uh, there's that subliminal shot of the rat with the dick just before he gets shocked as well, which always kind of I don't know if that works personally.
Speaker A: But anyway of course it does. It's hilarious.
Speaker C: Okay.
Speaker A: Just rolling it around.
Speaker D: Yeah, I should have understood that. Obviously that was meant to be because you were rolling on the floor laughing when that happened.
Speaker A: See, comedy, horror comedy, it's because you.
Speaker D: Fucking love capital punishment and that's what your issue is.
Speaker A: Yes, I'm really strongly, uh, in favor of that.
Speaker E: It's a great deterrent. That's what I really can it works. I mean, you can't argue the numbers.
Speaker D: No. Murder is way down, and it just.
Speaker E: Makes you feel good.
Speaker A: Justice is done. There's no innocent people on death row.
Speaker C: Closure.
Speaker D: That's how you close cases.
Speaker A: Got to get those numbers, put them.
Speaker D: In a chair, inject them with something, gas.
Speaker B: Them.
Speaker A: Case closed.
Speaker C: Wonderful.
Speaker A: The very end.
Speaker C: Yeah.
Speaker A: The after credits is that whole it's like a boxing match for some reason.
Speaker E: See, I feel like it's a dance party.
Speaker A: It is a dance party.
Speaker C: Yeah.
Speaker E: I think that it's a silhouette of, uh, the rat and the penis. Yeah.
Speaker D: Dancing, just having fun.
Speaker E: Maybe they're fighting, but I don't think so. I think that ratty and a little bit of both. Yeah. I mean, it's like sex.
Speaker D: Little bit of give, little bit of take.
Speaker C: Yeah.
Speaker A: That's romance.
Speaker D: Little bit of fist.
Speaker C: Yeah. Oh.
Speaker E: I mean, if Devin sawa's there Right, okay.
Speaker A: All roads lead back to Devin.
Speaker D: Sawa, devon sawa. Ah, fisting and like hands being removed and stuff. Like all it's all, uh, incongruous to exactly everything that we're talking about right.
Speaker C: Now.
Speaker D: I mean, I do have I like that bit where, uh, Laura's hand goes all wibbly wobbly because she's like fighting the soul of the warden that's inside of her.
Speaker A: Oh, yeah.
Speaker D: And that's enough to make her hand become very flexible.
Speaker A: All that weird stuff.
Speaker C: Yeah.
Speaker D: But there is when the poor man's, Danny Trejo, is literally just like, torso up, doing stuff. I think that shit's cool.
Speaker A: I love that. I loved him flying through the air. Um, he was great. That whole scene was very funny to me. Yes.
Speaker A: It's all that chaos at the end of the movie, because you have the guy who extra reanimates himself. The guy who was the Tommy Chong.
Speaker D: And then he gets too reanimated.
Speaker A: Too reanimated. And then he explodes and his guts fly everywhere.
Speaker D: Yeah, he does. He gets a little bit thirsty.
Speaker C: Yeah.
Speaker D: He bursts all over the place.
Speaker E: It's weird. I did notice watching it this time around, that it has a made for Sci-fi Channel feel to it way more than the previous films. And I think it's just watching it this time around, it's just like it's very evenly lit. It's weird. Uh, there are scenes, especially during the prison riot, that it's a little more interesting. But, uh, I don't know, there's something about it that feels a little asylum or whatever. The company that makes all those movies.
Speaker C: Yeah.
Speaker D: It does have a very kind of low budget feel.
Speaker E: It feels a little thrown together. Yes. Um, and I'm not quite sure why that is. I feel like maybe funding just came through. But why wasn't he sitting on a script for 13 years? I don't know. It feels like if it was a passion project, then because they had another script, uh, that they wanted to lead into where it was going to be Herbert and then Bruce, uh, abbott, is.
Speaker A: That his last name?
Speaker E: Oh, yeah. Um, from the first two, uh, that they're back together and they reanimate the President of the United States, played by William H. Macy. Um, and that never came to fruition. They lost funding. It kind of went on the back burner. And then, of course, Gordon died. And it was going to be a stewart Gordon was spearheading this.
Speaker D: All right.
Speaker C: Okay.
Speaker E: But it, ah, just never happened because it was during the Bush years. Uh, because Stuart Gordon was much more into making political satire. He was a hardline liberal. And so he wanted to make fun of George W. Bush in 2004.
Speaker D: That's fun.
Speaker E: I think everybody did.
Speaker C: Yeah.
Speaker D: No, I think there's something about this third one, but then it's kind of like if you think about the pantheon of horror sequels, the third one does sometimes end up in a prison. You know what I mean? Ah, like Aliens Three, human Centipede Three, they end up in a prison.
Speaker E: Yeah. That actually has a lot in common with Human Centipede Three in the way that it feels like it's much jokeier for an already jokey franchise. Um, slapsticky. Maybe the first reanimator is silly, but I wouldn't say it's slapstick. This is goddamn.
Speaker D: Goofy silly. Yeah, I mean, that kind of came to mind.
Speaker D: There's always a prison once movies go on for once a franchise goes on long enough, they always end up in a prison at some point.
Speaker A: Is there? Jason uh, goes to prison. Freddie goes to prison.
Speaker D: Jason goes to hell.
Speaker E: Jason goes to hell. In Jason X, he is kind of imprisoned. They freeze him because they imprison him and try to kill him multiple times. And they can't. So they just end up freezing him.
Speaker C: Mhm.
Speaker E: There is no leprechaun in prison, though. That would be good. M. Is there a hellraiser in prison? I just watched those. I don't think so.
Speaker D: Stepfather in prison.
Speaker E: I didn't even know there was stepfather three until a few weeks ago.
Speaker A: Stepfather three is so good because they cut his face off like a face off and give him a new face. And then he can be a brand new actor. Oh, god, it's so good. You know, I love Stepfather.
Speaker E: I need to watch it. I just learned about it. I don't know how. I've gone my whole life not knowing about this.
Speaker A: Oh, Stepfather, uh, franchise is a top tier franchise.
Speaker E: I've also never seen the remake.
Speaker A: It's fine.
Speaker D: It's not very good.
Speaker A: Well, Stepfather, the, uh, original has stays in line with Harry O'Quinn.
Speaker E: Totally naked.
Speaker A: Yeah. That first step. Oh, I can't wait to do that movie, you guys.
Speaker D: Yes, I can't wait either. It's going to be amazing. Fucking hate stepfather.
Speaker A: I don't understand why you could I.
Speaker E: Like it a lot.
Speaker A: Who am I here?
Speaker E: I'm not as big of a fan as the second as you are, but I do like the second.
Speaker A: Is it Father's Day?
Speaker D: It's fine.
Speaker A: Daddy's coming home.
Speaker D: We're all friends here. Daddy's home. Yeah, daddy's home. Daddy's home. Oh, it's so good.
Speaker A: Yeah.
Speaker A: Okay, so, uh, the only thing I have written down is did you know that Jeffrey Combs is five foot seven?
Speaker D: That seems yeah, yeah.
Speaker A: Seems thought I'd throw that out there.
Speaker C: Mhm.
Speaker D: He's not short, he's average.
Speaker E: Yeah, it's a little short, isn't it?
Speaker C: Yeah.
Speaker D: No, he's, uh, shorter than me.
Speaker E: M. Yeah. Whenever you see pictures of him and Barbara crampton together, like, oh, yeah, you guys are he's lady tall.
Speaker A: He's an average height for. An American woman.
Speaker D: Oh, okay. What was the average height for an American man? So, like 510. Yeah.
Speaker A: Uh, so I am going to ask you both for your ratings. And let's start off we'll start off with our guest, Josh, and we'll do your ratings from zero to five for the, uh, penis scene, for full frontal male nudity. Obviously, five is top tier full frontal male nudity in terms of visibility and context. So, uh, what say you?
Speaker E: Am I allowed half stars?
Speaker D: Absolutely.
Speaker E: Yeah.
Speaker C: Okay.
Speaker E: The penis itself, uh, I give four out of five because I think it's very funny. And especially knowing that there's, uh, uh, the ratty dance off at the end. Um, that's where I give it a four out of.
Speaker A: Five. Why did you want to know if.
Speaker E: Half stars were because I know it's what's coming.
Speaker C: Okay.
Speaker E: I'm just trying to establish the rules.
Speaker A: You're allowed half star. I mean, you could put you could say 3.1.
Speaker D: I don't care. We're already restricting ourselves to the five to the five star?
Speaker E: Uh, yeah. I'm going to make it a ten point scale, whether you like it or not. I know how fractions work.
Speaker A: Okay.
Speaker D: Ryan, for the dig scene yes. It's like maybe three stars or something. There's a bigger thing about it where it's not real.
Speaker A: That is true.
Speaker D: Definitely not real. Obviously, within the context of it, it can't be real because, um, then it does become an animatronic a stop frame, um, monstrosity, uh, like in the end credit sequence as well, when it obviously starts dancing. But, um, for the nature of what this is and for what we're covering, and within the tone of the reanimator movies in general. Yeah, I think it's pretty funny. I think it's pretty great.
Speaker C: Yeah.
Speaker D: This is our first I like a sequence where someone bites into something, be it an ear, a nose, a fucking finger. In, uh, this case, it's a deck, and they just fucking fling it out of their mouth and they spit it out. I like that. I like that in a movie.
Speaker C: Yeah.
Speaker A: You like the violence of I like.
Speaker D: The visceral nature of that violent depiction of just taking something from somebody else and fucking spitting it out. Cool.
Speaker C: Yeah.
Speaker D: I like that.
Speaker C: Yeah.
Speaker A: This is our first detached penis in a film because we've had fakes. We've had fakes, but we haven't had a what's the word? What's the word for that?
Speaker C: Prosthetics.
Speaker A: No, not prosthetic. Severed.
Speaker D: I'm thinking of something else but disembodied, perhaps. Um, removed.
Speaker A: Okay. More synonyms.
Speaker D: I mean, I don't know. You're asking you're looking at me like I disembodied.
Speaker A: Maybe that's the one I'm looking for.
Speaker D: Yeah, I say it's severed off. Severed penis.
Speaker C: Severed. Yeah.
Speaker A: Our first severed penis.
Speaker E: Uh, yeah. Disembodied makes it sound like it's like a baby born and oh, wait, there's more. That never was attached in the first place.
Speaker A: I don't know. Well, disembodied also kind of works because it has a mind of its own. That's, uh, true. So, uh, it probably isn't our last thing.
Speaker D: Is the warden's just now walking around with just a pair of nuts?
Speaker E: Yeah, I feel like that would be an, uh, issue bleeding. Like there's a lot of shit going on down there that you probably would not be able to stand after a very short amount of time of getting your dick cut bit off.
Speaker A: But he is reanimated. So what works? I mean, do you still bleed a.
Speaker C: Ton?
Speaker E: Is his heart pumping?
Speaker C: Pumping? I don't know.
Speaker A: I'm not sure.
Speaker E: And that's something the journalist chick asks the bald guy, let me take your, uh, pulse. As if that's going to be the indicator that it's very weird to me that he wouldn't have a pulse. He's still got to move. I don't know.
Speaker D: But, uh, I think from my understanding of the first movie is that because of the way it animates the bodies, it's making their internal organs work much faster than they're probably meant to. That's why they act all erratically interesting. Which is my understanding of what it is. And also, Herbert West, he says it in the third movie as well. He kind of says he's like, well, no, his heart was beating too fast. That's why he went all fucking crazy.
Speaker E: Which makes that was just a cover. Probably either way, because the warden wanted to know what was going on and he didn't want to show his cards.
Speaker D: Yeah, probably.
Speaker E: And he's smarter than the resident. The student getting his residency.
Speaker D: I'll also point out.
Speaker E: I'm not sure. Okay. I don't think that they are either, to be honest. No. I think that we've just put in four times more thought than they ever did.
Speaker D: I think if you begin to over explain it, it kind of kills the mysticism of it a little bit.
Speaker A: The mysticism. Okay. Uh, three and a half for that disembodied penis.
Speaker C: Okay.
Speaker A: From me or from you? That was mine.
Speaker D: Okay, good.
Speaker C: Three and a half.
Speaker A: All right.
Speaker A: So let's wrap this up and give our ratings for the film.
Speaker E: Josh, three and a half. Um, okay. I think that the original is a solid five star movie. Yes. And this is fun, but, um, it's 70%. Uh, that's how I see it. Yeah. So it's fine. I'm glad that it exists. Um, I throw it on occasionally, but I don't think I'd ever put it on without watching the first two in the same day.
Speaker C: Right.
Speaker E: It would be waking up in the morning, I'm going to watch reanimator all day. That's, uh, how that would go.
Speaker A: Bride is pretty good.
Speaker E: Bride is good. Yeah. Bride is like a four and a quarter for me. Okay. Which I hate. Quarter stars. That just muddies the waters. But it's a strong four.
Speaker A: On a ten star scale, it would be seven.
Speaker E: The beyond. Bride.
Speaker C: Bride.
Speaker E: For you, it would be or for me.
Speaker A: I was thinking for you. I'm like, what's a four and a quarter?
Speaker E: Four and a quarter would be, uh, eight and a half.
Speaker A: Oh, that's pretty high.
Speaker D: Yeah, it's pretty high.
Speaker A: Okay.
Speaker C: Anyway.
Speaker E: But Reanimator is 100.
Speaker A: Yes. 100 out of ten.
Speaker E: It's a perfect fucking movie. It's in my top four on Letterboxed favorites. Let me just, uh, say, and it has been I don't move that shit around.
Speaker D: I agree with Reanimator. Reanimator is a five star movie. That movie is a lot of fun.
Speaker A: From start to well, we already talked about it, so where.
Speaker D: Are um I mean, I kind of agree with Josh. I gave it three. It's just there's too much. There's too much three and a half. What's that? Well, he said three and a half. I gave it three. I'm kind of halfway there.
Speaker A: No, I'm saying that Josh just now said three and a half.
Speaker D: I know, but I agree with I I've seen fucking worse than this. At least this movie's fun in parts. It's just there's some fluff in it.
Speaker E: It's just kind of it's never super boring. No, there's no boring parts to it.
Speaker C: No.
Speaker E: Maybe when they don't eat their pizza crust, that whole scene is a little boring. That's about it.
Speaker A: I don't need to see these two talk.
Speaker D: They have no chemistry. And they're too pump chump bullshit, like all that sort of stuff.
Speaker E: I can relate to that.
Speaker A: I just assumed we walked in on.
Speaker D: The oh my God. I love you so.
Speaker A: Much. Wow. I was just looking at what I had rated it initially on letterbox, and I gave it a two and a half.
Speaker E: Oh, that's not fair.
Speaker A: Which no, I'm rethinking it now because I was watching it specifically to make sure there was a penis in it the first time. So I wasn't fully engaged. This time I'm going to give it three. I still like it. It's better than right down the middle, I'd say.
Speaker C: Yeah.
Speaker D: I'd say it's better than down the middle. Yeah. There's a lot of stuff that I see now that's kind of throwaway, let's say made for TV, made for streaming stuff that is far worse than this movie.
Speaker A: When I give something, anything under three, I don't want to watch it again.
Speaker C: Same.
Speaker A: But if I give it a three or higher, I'll be okay with watching it again. So this one, obviously, I've seen it twice now, would watch again in the same sort of way where you're doing a little marathon.
Speaker C: Yeah.
Speaker E: It'd be real weird to wake up one morning like, today's the day I'm going to watch from beyond.
Speaker A: Reanimator.
Speaker C: Okay.
Speaker A: Well, gosh. M. Is that it? Is this? It for Spooky Penis Month.
Speaker D: It is for this year. That's so sad. Is it really?
Speaker A: I Love Spooky Penis Month.
Speaker D: Yeah. Um, I guess so.
Speaker A: I love Halloween.
Speaker C: Halloweeners.
Speaker A: It's all over for now.
Speaker E: Yeah. It's the only joy I get in this life.
Speaker D: I know. And then you die.
Speaker A: M. Wow. Well, thank you guys so much for joining me. For all of the joy and the severed penises and the exploding bodies and the reanimations. It's been fun.
Speaker E: Spooky Penis month is thanks for having me again.
Speaker A: Yeah, thanks for being here.
Speaker C: No problem.
Speaker A: For joining us. And guys, you have to remember to trust your instincts and really go for it, okay? You got to remember that as we go forward to the end of the year. Coming to you from Arkham State Penitentiary. Uh, I have been Laura.
Speaker B: Is that what it's called?
Speaker D: Yes.
Speaker A: Arkham.
Speaker C: Arkham. All right.
Speaker D: Well, I'm Ryan.
Speaker A: I'm Josh. Wow, thanks, guys. We will see you next time, I think. And let me just throw in there. Go on our social media because this is on Instagram or Twitter or whatever the hell, because that's where we put up the movies that we're going to be watching. Yeah, probably go on there and find our letterbox and follow all the weird shit we watch.
Speaker D: Yeah, we'll find something. We'll find something suitable for Thanksgiving. Maybe some appropriation.
Speaker A: You want to do that so bad?
Speaker D: Big time. Yeah, really want to do that. Movie looks so fucked up. It is.
Speaker C: Yeah.
Speaker A: Well, you guys will find out if you follow us on the Internet, and then if not, you'll find out what the movie is when it comes out. Yay. Thanks, guys. We'll see you next time.