Can't Stop the Music (1980): directed by Nancy Walker. If there's one thing you can't stop, it's the music. You can't stop the music. Jesus, please, will you just STOP the music?? Equally, you can't stop Steve Guttenberg in a pair of rollar-skates blading his way to his dreams in a cringeworthy performance as the Village People's Producer. In this pseudo-biographical tale of how the disco group came to be, we realise everything that surrounded them was a complete joke (literally).
Hoot-a-minute this is not, painfully, bewilderingly silent this is. But all is forgiven when the 4 (?) musical numbers grace us with their presence. Let's just say, CAN'T STOP THE MUSIC is a product of it's time.
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When I do notes and stuff like I usually just scroll them onto one page so they're all there right in front of me. So I have any jokes to make. They're right there, right in front of my face. It's like I look at the top corner, it says, what kind of fuckery is this? And why is this so dumb? It's like, I hate The Goot. It's stuff like that that I'm writing down here. I don't like Gutenberg. I really don't. I don't understand his appeal.
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I really hope that, um, any Goot lovers out there just reach out and let us know that you love The Goot. Uh, because you're not alone.
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Yeah. Fucking Gutenberg focus group. You can all hang out together like those sad sacks who love Avatar.
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Well, hello there, and welcome to On The Bitte, the podcast that uncovers full frontal male nudity in cinema. My name is Laura, and I am joined ever so tenderly by my co host, Ryan.
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Tenderly, tender. Tenderly.
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Yeah.
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Tinderly Swipe, right?
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I did.
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Yeah, you did. We both did. Otherwise we wouldn't be here right now covering this awful movie.
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And that awful movie is the 1980 musical comedy Can't Stop the Music, starring Steve Gutenberg. Fan favorite.
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Yeah, whatever.
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Valerie Perine and Caitlyn Jenner as Bruce Jenner. Who's playing Ron.
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Yeah. You just explained to me, uh, that's the lawyer that's in this movie.
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Yeah. I thought that you'd known that that was Caitlyn Jenner.
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He's a celebrated Olympian. Or was a celebrated Olympian.
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Yeah. Um, with records that had been untouched until just before the release of this film in 1980.
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Okay. I mean, I didn't know anything about Bruce Jenner obviously, going into this. I know plenty about Caitlyn Jenner. She's very vocal about certain things. She has some views that are, let's say, Polarizing.
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I believe she is problematic.
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Okay, there you go. That's good. Well, I mean, yeah, if you have anything to do with the Kardashians. I mean, there's nothing.
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I don't know anything about the Kardashians. And we're not going to go into it because I don't know who is who. I don't know what they do, and I don't know why they're on TV. I genuinely don't.
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But, yeah, just, uh, roll up your little cotton socks. You'll be fine.
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Why don't you tell us about the director of this film, Nancy Walker.
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Nancy Walker. That means celebration. Celebrated director. Um, okay, so Nancy Walker primarily was an actress, and she did a bit of TV and film directing. She, um, was born in the 19s 20s, so she'd been around for quite a fair amount, but she doesn't have a very illustrious career. I cannot say that much. And this is her only film. She died in 92. So she's only directed one film. And that was the comedy musical. I find it hard to call it a comedy musical because when it's not musical, it's not funny.
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Are you sure it's not funny? I laughed.
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Yeah, but I mean, it's absurd. I don't know really if that's kind of the blanket, uh, for comedy nowadays. But, I mean, that wasn't really.
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It was 40 years ago.
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It wasn't very. Yeah, it was fucking four years ago. Right. So being Nancy Walker, she did a bit of acting and stuff in the 1940s and into the 1970s. I mean, a couple of notable things is that she was in Murder by Death in 1976, which is. All right, what is that?
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Is that a movie?
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Yeah, it's a movie.
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Okay.
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Kind, um, of like clue, kind of like one of those things.
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All right.
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Yeah, supposedly she's a comedian. She knows comedy. Um, but she was also in a movie with Doris Day called Lucky Me. I, um, don't know if she's a front player in any of the stuff she's ever been in, so I'm just going to put that out there.
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Okay.
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But, yes, mostly, uh, kind of romantic kind of comedy films. Like I said, nothing very notable. The only notable thing about Can't Stop the Music is it shot by Bill Butler.
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Who did Mind Blowing.
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Yeah. Because he shot Jaws. He shot the late Rocky movies. He did Greece, The Conversation, he did Charles Play, and he also did Anaconda.
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Oh, my God. I didn't know about Anaconda.
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I don't know if I was ever going to bring up Anaconda in any sort of form, but, yeah, Bill Butler shot those movies, and he also shot this one. How do we kind of describe Can't Stop the Music? Let's just say, like, maybe you go into it.
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Well, I just wanted to say something about Bill Butler and Nancy Walker. So apparently Nancy Walker and Valerie Perene had huge issues working with each other. So it got to a point in filming where Nancy Walker said, I'm not coming to set if Valerie Perrine is there filming that day. Now, Unfortunately, Valerie Perine is essentially the star of this film.
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She's almost in every single scene.
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Yeah. Therefore, Nancy Walker stopped coming to set, and Bill Butler filmed most of the movie all by himself.
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Okay.
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Yeah, she just wouldn't come to set.
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Okay.
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I hated her so much.
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Yes. It doesn't really kind of gel well with having any sort of successful career in the film business. If you're not able to come to set to actually direct the scenes that you're meant to be directing.
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Correct?
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Well, I don't know. I think Bill did the best he could with what was there, because what was there is kind of like a jelly mess.
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It's a fever dream. So let me tell you, the synopsis of this film pulled from Letterbox.
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I cannot wait to hear this shit.
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One sentence.
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Good.
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A loose biography of seminal disco hitmakers The Village People and their composer, Jacques Morale.
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Right. Okay. So, I mean, penned is like a pseudobiographical movie.
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Yes. Um.
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Um, here's the thing. It's not the literal telling of the story. It's meant to be kind of like this fun romp.
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Yeah.
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Um, but because it's not a literal telling of the story, you could literally do anything with it to make it more fun. Yes, it could be more fun.
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Yes. And I got to tell you, a lot of the musical numbers, I was really digging them, you know, because I forget how mundane and ridiculous the rest of the film and the dialogue is. But every time there was a musical number and I'm, like, pulled me back in.
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Yeah.
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And I don't like The Village People music.
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No. Their songs are incredibly literal, as we seem to find out.
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Yeah. It just kind of explains, uh, everything that they're talking about. So what can I do with the YMCA workout? I can work out.
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Meet the boys.
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Meet the boys. I can have a, uh, meal. A good meal.
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Yes. Have fun and have fun. Okay.
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That's what you can do with the way I see it.
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And this is not obviously, they put The Village People down, but their music was born to be played in clubs and stuff. Like they were movers and shakers.
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Yeah.
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It didn't matter what they were singing about. Like beats. Yeah. Milkshakes or disco beats. Meeting the boys or whatever. It was all about getting people to move and shake on the dance floor. That was kind of what it was about. Because I guess you would refer to it as, like, disco music.
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It is disco.
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Or at least it's like it's at the latter end of the disco era.
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So that is also the issue with this is because when this film came out, The Village People, by the time they started filming it and ending the filming of this, The Village People weren't popular anymore, and neither was disco. They missed the Mark just so that The Village People weren't important.
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And everyone hated disco because they already refer to the fact that the AES are coming in the movie and that things are obviously going to change. So they knew when this film was going to come out. They knew when they were filming this film because it came out in 1980. Right. Yeah, right. So, I mean, pretty much they knew exactly what they were doing and where they were. I feel like the issue with the film is not the inclusion of the Village People. That's where all the fun comes in, correct? It's the rest of the other crap where you're like, okay, if this isn't a biographical film, just like, trim out all the fucking meat, like all this stuff, like all that fat that you've got on here, all the fucking Bruce Jenner Gutenberg bullshit.
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Don't you dare throw the Goot under the bus.
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Fucking goofy idiot. He is fucking three men and a baby bullshit. I love the fucking police Academy. I don't like Gutenberg. He has zero appeal to me. Like, absolutely zero. And they put him center stage in this hell. Yeah, he is a fucking goofball.
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Oh, he's so good.
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Oh, my God.
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And I, um, love that. I have a thing going with our friend Jen right now to where I'll just randomly send her some good pictures or like, Gutenberg news, and then she gets very upset.
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It's bordering on, like, systematic abuse. No one needs that kind of price.
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She hasn't blocked me, uh, yet.
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Well, she doesn't like them. No. And who does?
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Me.
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Yeah. I think we need to get you a therapist. I think any more chatter about the Gutenberg and any sort of positive way, I'm going to get you a section.
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Oh, we didn't do the tagline. The tagline of this film is the musical comedy smash of the 80s.
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Yeah. Which is a lie because there's a lot of musical comedy smashes of the 80. Uh, s. Because Xanado came out in the 80s. Well, it was after this, right?
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I believe Xana do came out potentially the same year.
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You're joking.
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I'm not, um, the same year.
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Okay, so what about. Well, Greece came out before then, right? I think Greece is like 78 or something.
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It is 78.
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Right. Okay.
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So it's funny that you're bringing that up.
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And I want to get into the film just after this because that's probably the reason why Butler is on this movie is because of his involvement with Greece.
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Right?
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Yeah.
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So Alan Carr, who I believe is the producer of the film.
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The production of canstop the music. Yeah, probably.
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Okay. Who also did Greece. And so he wanted Olivia Newton John for this film and was in talks to get Olivia Newton John, but then she did Xanadu instead. There's a lot of Xanadu can't stop the music. Twos and froze.
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Yes. This is kind of like cancel the music is kind of like the permanent Zanado. But also Zanadu is also the permanent. There's roller skates in both of these movies. This one. I mean, cancelling music wanders a fair amount for 2 hours. It's a bit of a journeyman. Like, it's a bit rough.
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Starts off really well. So it starts off with the Goot working in a record shop. Um, but he's got somewhere really important to go tonight because someone dropped out who was going to DJ at this really fancy club.
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He has dreams of becoming the next Avici. That's where he wants to be.
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Who's that?
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Avici is a very famous Swedish DJ. Uh, I don't know. It's Pitbull. A DJ?
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I have no idea who you're talking about right now. I got to be honest. Not clear.
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God, uh, I didn't know if we'd ever bring up pit Bull, but anyway.
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Yeah, well, he tells his boss that if he doesn't get the night off, he's going to quit. But it's Inventory night.
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Yeah. This isn't the only time this happens during the course of the movie, though. Like, people are just ready to quit a moment's notice because of, obviously, the potential of something, because obviously, quitting your normal job for potentially doing something within the creative industries, I don't think is a very sensible thing to do, and I know that for a fact, but, yeah, I know he's, um, skating around the record store. Basically, he's a goof.
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It's so great. And he yells at his boss, and he's like, you know, something about how he's not going to do inventory tonight. And he jumps over the counter in his roller skates, and he's like, My time is now. And then he roller skates out the door. And then comes the most beautiful, long opening credits montage scene of roller skates that anyone has ever seen, and nothing will ever be seen again. Like it.
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I mean, to be fair, it has to be long. So it has to substantiate the song because they paid for the song.
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Oh, boy.
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Yeah. Remember, this is a musical comedy. There has to be music in it.
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I would have that opening credits scene on repeat forever. I loved it so much.
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Okay, that's fine.
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Uh, it was very funny.
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Yeah. I mean, in the list of great opening title sequences, that wouldn't even make the top 50.
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What are you talking about? Of course it was. What's better than this one? Pick one.
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Seven.
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I, uh, don't remember it.
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Gold Nigh.
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I don't remember that one either.
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Right, okay, I remember this one because. No, you're pleading ignorance to the fact that I bring up anything and you're just like, no, it's not. Can't stop the music.
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I can't remember.
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It's not The Goot. Yeah. Where's The Goot now? Exactly. We're going to cover that later.
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Yes, 45 minutes. It's going to be a three hour long episode.
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Let's just get through this so we can get that big. I'm more interested in that shit.
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Just a lot of weird stuff happens. I'm going to come up with my favorite points before we get to the Dixie, which is weird that that even exists in this film, because I'm pretty sure it's a PG, but, um, they end up going, the Gut has a really, uh, beautiful Top Model roommate. Uh, and they head back to their apartment, and this dude is sitting on the couch wearing a full Native American headdress.
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She's like, watering plants or something. There's a lot so many plants. That's the thing. This film very much kind of lives in the past. It's very much got the humor of like a 1950, like, TV sitcom. It's very much kind of buried in the sort of stuff that Nancy Walker has been performing in for most of her life. So a lot of that stuff is kind of injected into this where it's a lot of off color jokes or the references to weed, because it's like the 1970s and it was a big thing and obviously time of time.
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Magic mushrooms, bro.
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Uh, yeah. And there's a lot of also kind of very. We were going to get into this. But for a film that's effectively about the birth of one of the most openly gay music acts to ever exist, the word gay is never used once.
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Certainly not.
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No. And I think that's obviously due to the fact that that, uh, was very much the marketing decision of the Village family from their conception, to be fair.
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The Village family.
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The Village family. The Village people. But let's put it this way. Like, they're openly homosexual, but there is nothing about it other than it's always kind of surface level homosexuality. It's never kind of fairly out there.
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It's never said, but it is made clear.
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It's kind of like. Yeah, it's kind of like a gay and joke. It's like, you know, because if you're part of the culture, you know, they're gay.
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Yeah.
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I don't know what to say about it, but there's no part of it where it's like. Because it's a marketing ploys. You don't sell as many records if you put yourself out there at that time as being openly gay.
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Right.
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Yeah. So I guess that's what they're doing.
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Like an underground cult hit.
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Yeah. It's a reference to Cruising in this movie. One of the women says to one of the guys, you'll be cruising around on Time Square and she starts laughing and we're all like, we've all seen that Alpacino movie. What it's all about. Yeah.
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Cruising also came out in directed by William Friedkin, was filming at the exact same time as Can't Stop the Music.
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Oh, yeah. This was in the documentary. Right. Because they were protesting.
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So, yes, there were gay activists, protesters protesting the filming of Cruising, which was filming in the same area as Can't Stop the Music. But then the activist protesters would confuse one set for the other set and often would halt the filming of Can't Stop the Music on accident when they were actually looking for the film set of Cruising. And this happened over and over again during the production.
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Yeah. Um, what a dichotomy.
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I love, uh, that. I love. That happens.
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That is wild. That is wild. It's so funny because the thing is, the Cruising, like, the stuff in Cruising is 100% real. That stuff exists. That is real men doing real things to themselves.
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I mean, it's like a basement full of Leatherman.
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Yeah, it was a thing. It is a thing. Always has been a thing. I mean, there's a leather man in this.
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Remember when Leatherman is, like, banging his head against the wall and he goes, Leatherman, don't cry. Leatherman, don't cry.
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Oh, my God. I think I may miss that bad. Jesus Christ. Uh, I remember, right?
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And then that one guy walks by and goes, yes, they do. It was so weird. Okay. But what I was going to say about Philippe, who climbs in through the window wearing his whole headdress. Sam the roommate, she's, um. Like, oh, this is fine. This is neighborly New York after all. And I've never heard of New York being neighborly New York, unless you want to do, like, your friendly neighborhood Spiderman and you mess with one of us. You mess with all of us.
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Yeah, I guess there's a kingship of being a New Yorker, which I think. But this is like, again, this is pseudo reality. This isn't real. There is some kind of quintessential New Yorker bits. I mean, there's a robbery. There's an old woman with a gun that robs someone. There's an assault in the movie as well. With a baguette.
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I love that. You know what I mean as well? That woman just walks out of the store with a big old baguette and then just slaps a woman in the back and then she takes the baguette and slaps the old woman. Yeah, weird.
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Well, here's the thing. You do understand those moments are meant to be funny.
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It was funny.
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And how do you make moments like that funny in what is effectively meant to be a comedy musical?
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I don't know. It was just funny.
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I didn't need any the way they make them funny in this movie. What do you think they do? What it is accompanied by deafening silence.
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All right.
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Yeah. So, like, uh, when there's no music, there's basically no sound. There is nothing other than, other than, say, people talking absolute shit for the most part.
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Very weird.
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Like, dry nonsense. Like, they have a fucking party and there's a lasagna night and stuff. And you're like, Jesus Christ. Uh. And they're like, well, you know, I've made the lasagna. And then they start talking about weed. And then someone's just like, well, I'm going to get this party started. I'm going to crack the whip. And one of them goes, bit of SNME. It's like, what is this? What is this dry nonsense?
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It was very quiet. And I just find it very strange that they're having a nice get together, dinner party demo recording session with the group that they've created. They called in the Village. People later found them on the street.
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Yeah, it's just a bunch of dudes. Just a bunch of that never take off the work clothes specifically. Yes, they don't ever take off their work clothes, but also their work clothes are not particularly practical. There are short shorts, open tops. The biker who works at the Tall office for the bridge. He's a bridge Tollman leather guy. I don't think his, um, clothing is particularly practical.
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No.
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And certainly I don't think you can go around just looking like a cop if you're not actually a cop.
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He was a cop. He is a cop.
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He's definitely a cop. Yeah.
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The one that's married who's very sure to let everyone know that he's married to a woman.
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Yeah. Always brought his wife around and nothing that's real. He is the only straight man in that group. He's also the lead. Yeah, he's also the lead singer very much of all the songs.
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Oh, I wanted to say about the lasagna they have this night, this demo night, and they invite all these people, and she cooks a lasagna, and then everyone eats the lasagna, and then they go off to sing, which is exactly what I want to do right before I'm about to record a demo tape. Is eat a ton of pasta and cheese.
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Yeah. And spitting out little bits of ground beef into the crowd and stuff like that. I think that's good for your vocal. It's not an, uh, optimum sound recording environment. And Gutenberg should have known better. At one point, there's one of the ladies get. So she's dancing with all these kind of long hanging lights and stuff like that. It looks like she gets all fucking tangled up in it and stuff. I'm like, what were they singing about as, um, well, this isn't the milk shake song. What were they singing about?
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I don't know.
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Just like, having fun.
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Yeah, it was like everyone's getting together and we're having a good time tonight.
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Yeah, pretty much. Pretty much. That's like, good. Yeah. Because there's a lot of kind of trophy, I guess, like kind of comedy filmy bullshit. Have you ever seen any of those sort of Doris Day movies? There's always these archetypes that kind of show up. So Bruce Jenner, who's the lawyer? Uh, we kind of pink him firstly as being kind of like this very conservative. Yeah. Well, he does say when he says it quite flat, he doesn't agree with their lifestyle.
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Oh, yeah, that was rough.
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And it's kind of like, okay, so you're obviously homophobe. And then there's also the woman, um, who's obviously, uh, she's interested in having sex with everybody. Like, she has sex with people. She's the one who offers Gutenberg the weed.
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Oh, right.
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She pulls the fucking. She just pulls out of her bra, and she's like, oh, we're going to do this. And then that leads to, like, a horrible joke where Gutenberg sees the cop who's in the Village People.
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Where else are you going to keep your weed? You got to keep it somewhere.
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Well, I don't know. She made that horrible joke about having bad sex and cleaning, remember?
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Oh, yeah. She said it's, uh, like, every time I clean or have bad sex.
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I swear I'm never going to do it again until you get a suitable company coming around again. And it's like, okay.
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Yeah, I don't know if she's got priorities.
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It's certainly not hoot a minute. Let's put it that way. Every single musical number in this movie is pretty great. There's that I love you to death song, the builder song.
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I don't know what to say about that song. I was very confused and all of the songs are quite repetitive, so you end up knowing all the words to the song within 20 seconds.
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Well, this is a three minute song and it has three lines, I love you to death and it just goes on for three minutes. I love you to death. It's also not happening in reality either. It's just happening in his head. Yeah, it's just like, I love you today.
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It was a really bad music video. And it's funny because all the dancers look exactly the same when they film the milkshake commercial.
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Yes, well, they've obviously tried to save money there. They just put them in a different costume. It's only the milkshake song is also a very literal song about how you make a milkshake and what you can do with milk.
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Yes. You can have it with a sandwich. You can have it afterwards.
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Yes. And then you put it in with some ice cream, a little bit of sugar, blend that up, you get yourself nice little mic shake. And if you like. You like chocolate? Do you like a chocolate milkshake? Do you like a strawberry milkshake? Do you like a vanilla milkshake?
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Yeah.
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Toe tappers. That's all they are. They're toe tappers. They're meant to take the songs literally because they're kind of like the Village People just as a band, relatively a novelty. It's kind of like what they're meant to be. They're like a novelty band.
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Like the Spice Girls.
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I'd say the Spice Girls had a little bit, uh, more towards the making of the music, but yes, they're kind of like they're just a pop machine. They made a whole bunch of money and they just got out. I would say. I wouldn't say it's like close to like Mr. Mhm. Blobby. Like standards of quality. And I don't know if there's anything like that in the US. Like if there's any sort of novelty bands. I don't know what's that didn't weird out have like a bunch of songs. They're all kind of novelty songs and they're not.
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Well, they're like spoof songs, parodies.
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Yeah, that's what I would say. Parody songs.
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But he's not a novelty.
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Okay.
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No, I would not call weirdo a novelty. He's a parody man.
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I would say, like, in general, there's some interesting musical numbers in this movie, but just in general, there's nothing about this film that holds any sort. It treads kind of so thinly over the course of 2 hours.
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Okay, all right, I get it. But what parts made you laugh. Because we're about to come up. We have an hour into the film before we talk about the penises. Is there anything that you can remember before that?
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The one laughs like I it when? Because the film really kicks up a gear when they're auditioning for people to join the band. And then the biker guy comes in and starts singing, Danny Boy.
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Oh, my God.
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Holy mother of Christ.
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He just wanted an extension on his taxes.
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Oh, yeah.
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But then he walked into an audition for the Village People.
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Uh, you'll never guess what I can sing, boys.
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Oh, my God. Wow. You really did it. All right, here we go. He does. I loved him. It's exactly what he said. Slightly. He does. He does.
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And then he just whispers to the pianist who goes to the tax office dressed like that, though. That's fine. That's okay.
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They never changed their clothes. Danny Boy.
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Yeah, it's perfect.
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It makes no sense.
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Yeah, it's very funny.
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Like you thought he would jump up and say, I don't know, a current disco hit or some such thing or a Village People's song.
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It's certainly a bear. Well, no, because they're not the Village People by that point.
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Right. But you've already had Village People's songs before the Village People are created in the film.
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Yes. It's also a pseudo. It's a pseudobag. They're not going to put songs in that. They weren't hits for The Village People because they've got to bring in that audience.
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I guess he could have jumped up there and saying, Macho Man. They didn't even put that, uh, in the movie.
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No, but there is one reference to that when she's wearing a Navy. Yeah, but there's a reference to Macho Man. And there's a T shirt that she wears that says Macho Woman. Red, uh, T shirt during the YMCA song.
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Right.
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Because that's the thing. They're obviously trying their best to try. And a lot of these songs, when, uh, they're performed, they're kind of relatively out of place because there's no need for us to go to a YMCA. We have to be there for the song.
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I don't even know how they got there or why.
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Because we were on the street and then we're in the YMCA.
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Yeah. You just kind of get there.
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Yeah. And we are missing, like you said in the Navy. And we are missing Macho Man as well. I don't know. Unless they're like, maybe they're just too much.
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So I do believe that they filmed Macho Man and then it got cut.
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See, the thing is, I don't know why they didn't just film this movie, because all the dialogue is tripe.
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It's really bad.
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It's tripe.
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It's really bad. It is amusing, but, um, it's long and drawn out. Um, but it's fine. I mean, what were you expecting?
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I don't know what we were expecting.
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I don't know. I still laughed a lot, but we haven't even gotten through half of the film yet. I have nothing to discuss other than 1 hour, twelve minutes and 55 seconds in when they start singing YMCA. Hell. Uh, yeah. Okay, so we get to the YMCA song, and in this film, there is nudity, which is strange, considering that I'm pretty sure that this is a PG film.
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I think they were trying to do a kind of mass market thing because the thing is, there's a fair amount of nudity in this particular sequence.
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Yeah.
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We'Ll get into it as much as, um, it's not particularly clear, I guess the version of the movie we're watching was not only a VHS rep, but it was also then redundant back onto a VHS before they transferred it again. And then it looks like us.
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Yes, it looks really bad. Yes. This is a PG film. Yeah.
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It's relatively, um, inoffensive. It's just a film like it's in offensive.
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Oh, completely.
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The problem is, if you're one of those incredibly conservative and quite ignorant individuals out there, there's nothing about this that you're going to enjoy. There's nothing about it whatsoever. The shorts are so short that you're just going to be like, that's not practical. How would you ever get a job dressed like that?
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You don't need the job. You just need the music, baby.
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Yeah, I guess. Well, you can't stop the music.
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I have zero problems with the short shorts. I have even fewer problems with the crop top T shirts. I loved it. Every second of it. Give me the short shorts. Show me those thighs. Show me your tummies.
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I guess the thing is that I'm a bit beautiful. I'm a bit of a realist. And at the end of the day, I felt like even in Total Recall, when Arnold's doing the construction work there, I felt like what he was wearing was a little bit too much as well.
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Yes, I agree.
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I think you need to look like he's pal. And recall got a bit of a belly. You look like you smoke cigars. I think what I'm more kind of like is how do you manage to get any work done with those tiny shorts?
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Yeah, they're so distracting to everybody else. How am I supposed to get worked on with those tiny shorts running around? You could almost see Philippe's butthole. His shorts are so short.
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Philippe.
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Philippe.
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Philippe is the Native American.
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Yeah.
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Oh, right. Okay.
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It bends over to, uh, grab something. Okay, one thing I don't think that we've mentioned yet, which will definitely come up in this scene with the YMCA, is the absolute gratuity of, um, menu butts and crotches and bending. Uh, there's boobs that aren't men there's ladies. Boobs.
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Yes. There are some titties in there.
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Yeah, it's crazy. And this happens throughout the film. Like, also in the beginning of the movie.
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Uh, she's also the only lady at the YMCA as well. There's no any other ladies there.
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She's the only one.
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No, it's very much like the entire sequence for as long as it is. It's the entirety of the song. It's just a celebration of men coming together.
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Hell, yeah, that's what it is. These boys love hanging with the boys, and they love doing gymnastics. They do, and they, like doing wrestling.
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There's some crazy stuff in this sequence.
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Women and pumping iron with the boys.
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And I guess this is when we kind of point out there's not a lot of overtly. I guess what we say there's like visual metaphors, like overtly kind of Homo erotic imagery.
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Very phallic pumping, much grinding.
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Yeah. Uh, it's been relatively tame up until this point. And then you're kind of like, well, they're really not burying it anymore, are they?
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I don't know.
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It was pretty obvious it was going on here.
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Like when they had that disco scene in the beginning where Gutenberg was doing his disco night and he plays one song and then hands over the reins to a stranger and then leaves the most important night of his life. There was a lot of grinding in that scene as well. A lot of butts, lots of humbles.
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Uh, yes. And the thing is, lots of mustaches. The thing is, we're all aware what's going on. Yeah, we're all very aware what's going on. It's just never the word is ever uttered in the course of the movie. No, they don't have to. They don't have to.
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They're just living their lives. They don't need to call it out.
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I would argue so much that by not calling it out and just kind of showing it as, like, this kind of parody and stuff, is it a bit more of a slight or an injustice against gay culture?
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I don't know.
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By not embracing it fully and completely.
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I think they do embrace it, and I do think that it's nobody's business. They're just going to live their lives. Uh, but I'm not gay. Maybe I shouldn't have an opinion.
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No, I probably shouldn't.
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I can enjoy these boys.
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Enjoy these boys hanging with the boys. Yeah, okay. Well, talking about hanging with the boys, we get into this YMCA, okay. Because they just barge into this locker room. They don't give any of these lads anytime to put their clothes on.
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No.
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And they're all incredibly good looking.
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Yeah.
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There's not an ugly one in the bunch.
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Yeah. They walk in and there's a guy, and Sam, the woman is in the front of the group and walks in, and there's a guy just naked who covers himself up with a T shirt right off the bat, and she gives him a solid glance.
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Uh, yeah, well, they're obviously playing it for laughs, but I would say that they cover him up relatively quite well. They put, like, a fucking cocktail on them or something. I know. As bad as the quality was that we were watching, but there is some padding there to prevent us from seeing just a full on because it would be insane if we saw.
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Yeah. I'm still very curious to see what the Bluray version of this looks like all remastered and cleaned up, because this was a rough version to watch.
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Yeah. I want the white screen HD Bluray version.
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I looked it up. Um, it's pricey, but it might be worth it.
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Okay, well, I mean.
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Add it to the collection.
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Yeah. No, I don't see us ever really watching this film again.
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Says you. I'm going to watch the opening again. Okay. So then, um, we're intercut. It's a montage music video for YMCA, essentially. Right. But then they've got, uh, shots. Two different, pretty short shots of men showering.
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Yeah.
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There's like, shower scene.
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The public showering section. So it's basically like, it's just this really big kind of bath. It's all steamy and stuff like that. And they're obviously soaping and sudden themselves up. They're having a laugh. They're having fun as you do. Uh, because that's all you do at the YMCA. Have, um, fun.
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You have a good time.
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Yeah. Honestly, whenever I get there and I change, um, and I'm changing to go out, like, I've never been any fuzz line. Like, fucking Speedy Gonzales when I go in there.
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I think we've talked about your experiences at our local YMCA changing room.
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Yeah. Like eyes up or eyes, like, down on the ground. You do not stare because you are going to get like, there's going to be a rogue deck just, like, in your eyeline at some point.
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Uh, the amount of wieners you've seen at that YMCA.
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It'S insane how many decks I've seen.
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I think a lot of men get kicked out of there for.
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Indecent exposure, potentially. Uh, there is a way to go around it because I've done it for years. Like, you just around yourself and you're able to manually. You're able to do your thing without ever having to show your bits and bobs. But this is like this full grown man just walking around and it's carpet. You know what I mean? It's carpet. Fucking carpet in the locker room. And there's just guys just like, Dick swinging.
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Yeah, well, they're comfortable with their bodies and they want to show it off.
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That's fine.
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They want to put one leg up, Captain Morgan style, on a bench and lean over so you can see their balls.
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This is my thing. This also applies to men trying to talk to you when you're at the urinal. I never had any of these issues. There's a reservation. There's a respect that you have for your fellow man when they're trying to go to the toilet because it's a mission. Sometimes you're just like, Look, I need to go. I need to do this. I just need to put the focus on so I can just get on with my normal life and never have to ever find a bit. But it's like someone will turn to you when you're around, they'll be like, So How's your day going?
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Oh, boy.
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I'm like, what the fuck do you want me to say exactly in this moment? Like, I, um, literally have my Dick in my hand, and I cannot trust. Why do you want to know so badly what I'm doing while you're doing this? I don't understand. Very uncomfortable.
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What did you have for dinner last night?
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Yeah. And imagine that from a naked man asking you how your day is going in a locker room when you're just trying to get out.
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He just wants to be friends with you.
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I just want to go get a sandwich or have a coffee. Just, like, really think about it. Instead of, like, I'm stare, I've come out the shower, and I'm sweating, and I'm like, this man sticks almost going to touch my thigh. Um, like, I'm not really interested. I'm really not interested.
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That's what you get at the YMCA. You get a good time, and you get to meet new friends.
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Yes, you do.
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And you get to take a shower together if you want.
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Yeah. I don't know if those public showers are YMCA, but certainly there are showers at the YMCA.
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Any shower, uh, can be a public shower if you want it to be.
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Jesus. Anyway, talking of the public showers, this whole sequence because it's mental. And, I mean, we're not going to break it down completely, but the two shots where you see something or potentially see something.
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Yes.
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They are framed by frame instances very quick.
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And I did think that there was going to be more Wiener in this movie than there was. And so I was a little disappointed that we had to get up and slowmo those two shots as we did. So just be warned that this isn't like Harvey kitel levels of Wiener in this film. It's very quick. It's incidental.
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Yeah. And it's also something that I feel like if you are doing it frame for frame, you, um, miss the fact that it's even maybe there at all.
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Correct.
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It's something that you're like. You're like, oh, did I just see that? Because it's easier to see it in motion than it is to see it frozen in time, if that makes sense. It's, like, obvious that if you're looking at that part of someone's body and they turn a certain way and something flops, you're kind of like, well, look, it can only be that it's not someone's hand.
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Correct?
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So I guess that's kind of where that goes.
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The fact that there is a nude shower scene in this film at all is incredible.
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And then there's obviously the bath. There's the big bath where they're splashing around and stuff like that.
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Yeah. They're all swimming. And all of the men, I assume, are naked because Sam, the only female lead in this film, is naked. And you see her boots.
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Well, they've circled her. They've created a Whirlpool around her and they're just splashing.
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Oh, if there's nothing I hate more in a pool or in any body of water. If someone splashing me with water, I hate that so much. It's not fun. Yeah, but they're all splashing.
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You don't really tend to have fun in water in general.
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Really? I enjoy water.
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Do you? Yeah, only when it's in States.
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I don't like water sports.
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All right. Uh, that's the Dick scene. Like, it's kind of a blink and, um, you'll miss it or a moment.
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It's just so interesting. I just love the fact that it exists in this film. It comes out of nowhere, and especially during such a gratuitously, almost sexual song. The song is not sexual. Um, but all of the men in the YMCA are pumping, they're grinding, they're wrestling, and it's just very. I don't know. I don't want to say erotic, because it's not.
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But it's just their stuff is like, erotically charged. Yeah, that's the thing. And all the imagery is erotically charged.
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Much phallic imagery. Much innuendo.
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Yeah. The pants they're all wearing are incredibly, uh, tight. They've got outlines. Yeah. There's butts, there's butts, there's torso, there's outlines. I mean, it's all very, you know, what's going on. They don't say. They don't spell it out for you, but, you know, it's fantastic. You know what's happening.
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It's just so good.
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It's the Village People in and out. Really. I mean, that's what it's always been.
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Yeah.
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It's like, we know and, you know, but we're just not going to tell you. We're just in this together because we don't want to alienate a certain part of the public who might be interested in buying our music. That's why.
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Come on into the YMCA.
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Meet the boys, meet the boys. Meet the boys.
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They change the character of Ron. They make an impression on Ron's. A lawyer.
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Yes. Ron's whole thing is like the minute he gets to New York, he's immediately robbed.
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Yes.
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Because obviously it's hilarious. It's New York. It's a battleground. It's like, you don't understand New York. You're not a New Yorker. All this sort of stuff. And he's robbed fucking bit, though, like when the fucking granny gets clipped by the bike and it's obviously just all employee, um, because the bike knows the granny and stuff. Like, just fucking clips her and flips her and she falls to the fucking grounds. Awesome. So good. And it just robs the fuck out of them. And he goes over with these cake and stuff. So the minute he comes on the scene, he has an agenda. He's very conservative. He obviously does not see it. Uh, again, everything is kind of slightly implied, and no one ever uses the right words or anything like that. It's all kind of like maybe this or maybe that. But at the end of the day, it's just like. Yeah. He obviously has a problem with the fact that they're, um, quite out there.
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He doesn't like any lifestyle that does not strictly line up with his own.
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Do you remember that bit where they do? They do fucking in order to stop a cab. This is, um, as far as the comedy goes, and this might be one of the last things, uh, I say about this fucking movie, but in order to stop a cab because he's not from New York, all this sort of shit, he can't stop a cab for whatever reason.
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Right, right.
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And there's 1000 cabs. So he gets obviously her what's her face. She's a native New Yorker. She fucking pulls her dress up and shows her leg. Yeah, she does a way out west moment. And for anybody who's not aware what way out west is that Laurel and Hardy short and Stan Laurel does that in the movie, he stops a fucking horse and cart by showing his fore leg.
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Nice.
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Well, that's kind of obviously that's actually genuinely funny. And obviously whatever goes on here because there is a point where I black. Um, out.
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Well, it's right after this, uh, YMCA scene.
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Yeah, pretty much. Because there's the milkshake song, because you pick up every time like a song comes on. Because the songs, the song sections, like the musical numbers are actually pretty fun.
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Yeah.
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Just all the rest of it is just like, Jesus Christ. Because I got half an hour in and I'm like, oh my God, an hour and a half left of this.
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Yeah, it is 2 hours.
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It's like, Jesus Christ, it's far too much. And I guess that's the problem. It's like when there is no music, all the rest of the stuff, because whatever happened, the sound Department just went to sleep. None of that stuff seems to happen. All you hear is nothing but silence and just the stale conversations that go on. They're obviously meant to be funny because there's no ambient sound. There's nothing.
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It is strange.
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Yeah. It's very often like, it's incredibly painful to watch and to listen to because it feels incredibly stale. And obviously it takes place in New York and obviously New York so bustling city, there would be sound.
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Speaking of a bustling city, we got especially distracted at the end of this film right after the YMCA song because I was doing some research on the film and found many articles and videos of Steve Gutenberg from 2008 running around Central Park with no pants on.
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Yeah, he's bottomless porky pig in it.
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Porky piggy running through Central Park. And the video mhm is a guy saying, oh, here comes Steve Gutenberg. He runs pantsless every day through Central Park and he's naked. He's just got a shirt on. Yeah, I don't understand. I was absolutely mesmerized and had to send the video to many people because I just don't understand what Steve Gutenberg is up to and why he's running around without pants on. But it's very funny. I thought it was a joke, but I couldn't figure out whether it was a joke or not.
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So I kind of feel like, when did it come out? Was it like 2008? Right. So it came out in 2008. And I feel like I did see something like this or something similar at the time when it did come out. And I think people are as baffled as we are right now as to what is he trying, um, to achieve with this.
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He's stretching. He has his leg up on a tree.
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It looks staged. It looks staged. It looks like a kind of jackasses like prank. Yes, that's what it looks like. The problem is it kind of just makes him look like he has some level of issues or like something that needs to be addressed because it means obviously. And I think I said that it just makes them look a little bit desperate for attention.
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Yeah, it was a little strange. And in that video, if you look it up, I might post it as well. Or I don't want to get in trouble on Instagram again because I already got in trouble for some Jackass posts that I made. It's the first time for everything. I get in trouble a lot on my personal account, but not on our podcast account.
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Just because you've got no filter. That's the problem.
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That's true. Here we are. But I'll maybe post a link to it. But mhm, the guy in the video asked him, hey, um, man, what are you doing? Why don't you have pants on? And he just said, oh, hey, I got to go. I have a meeting. It just runs off. It did seem staged, but I never could find any clarification on it whatsoever.
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Well, here's the thing. This is why I'm always kind of like, we could do an entire episode just based on this one clip, because it's crazy. It is crazy because does he ever at any point, like, clarify what he was doing?
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I couldn't find anything to find out whether or not it was a joke or if he said what he was up to.
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Yes. So I just found it because we were watching it today and the movie is still going. It's like maybe got about half an hour left. You start switching off, and then you obviously brought this up. I mean, I don't know. I'd even, um, go as far as to say it's probably the most entertaining thing Steven Gutenberg has ever done.
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You are correct. I still love the Gut, but yeah, that's very strange.
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That's fine. I mean, he's not going to be any better than the dude who does the sound effects. That's all I'm going to say. Jeez, he's basically being upstaged by a fucking folly artist at that point.
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I don't want you talking like this anymore. I don't appreciate it. And all of us Gutenberg fans out there also don't appreciate.
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To be fair, Tom Selek's mustache had more stage presence than he did.
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You're not wrong. Uh, Tom Selek is an absolute treasure.
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Yeah, but I'm not talking about Tom Sellak. I'm just talking about. I'm just talking about his facial hair. Mustache needs to detach if you detached his facial hair from Tom Selix face and let's say you put it in a sterile white space. Okay, so you're testing it in like you're setting the conditions. Okay, so basically there's no external stimuli, and basically you're trying to figure out what's more entertaining. A piece of facial hair or Gutenberg, right?
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Yes.
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And all it's in the room. There's no furniture or anything.
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I understand.
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You're just trying to obviously figure out what's more entertaining. And you'll just bring in some people and you'll be like, look, we need your plain, honest opinion. What is funnier? What is better? So it's Tom Seller's, uh, mustache, or is it Gutenberg? I've got a funny feeling it would be the mustache.
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It's a mustache. Yeah, it would have to be the plastic mustache. It's very good. And I wish that you would grow one.
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Yeah, I mean, I can't grow one.
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I wish you would do it for me. Okay.
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I mean, that's fine. But even the prospect of me growing a mustache is still more entertaining than Gutenberg.
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You are correct. But I still like the Gutenberg.
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That's fine.
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Now I changed my mind.
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I'm just putting out there. Just putting out there.
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You know, I have a couple more things. So in terms of accolades, which I didn't think I would find weirdly, um, enough, this film Can't Stop The Music, and the film Xanadoo basically inspired the Golden Raspberries as an awards show.
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Oh, well, hold on. I'm going to turn my page. Right. Okay.
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This film Can't Stop the Music was the very first winner of the worst picture at the Razzies.
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Wow. Okay.
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Yes.
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I'm not going to defend it. I mean, it kind of deserves it a little bit. Uh, it's a horrible mess.
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That being said, I still find it entertaining. I want to point it out.
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Yeah. No, I mean, if you like kind of random moments, like where a woman gets hit with a fucking baguette.
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Yeah.
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And then she's stuck in a phone booth for what seems like hours because her nail gets caught under the Rotary dial of the phone.
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I wish I could edit this film to my own liking. And I think it would be an hour long, and I'd really like it.
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Um, yes, I think if they took a good 40 minutes out of this thing, it would be a far more fun film. Plus, also just leave all the fucking music stuff in there. That's the stuff that's interesting.
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That's true.
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Not all the kind of latent homophobia and the fucking Gutenberg nonsense.
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Stop it right now.
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Uh, there's so much going on. That's the thing. Like the movie, you say it's a fever dream, but I also, uh, don't want to say it's a fever dream because then you could be like, wow, isn't this fun? Because then it's not really fun either. You're kind of just like.
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It is pretty fun.
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Yeah. I don't know. I don't know if I really agree with you. I kind of feel like you only do it to just argue with me on the, um, fact that you're just trying to do that.
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I mean, let's put this into numbers.
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I can handle success better than I handle a root canal Gutenberg. That's a joke. Yes. Fucking terrible.
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So we are going to do our ratings, our visibility and context ratings and our ratings for the film from zero to five stars. And I'd like you to start.
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Ryan, with the visibility and context.
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Please do.
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I'd rather see what you come up with, because my rating could be quite low. It's one of those blinking you'll miss it sort of things.
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It is a .5% okay.
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Well, then I'd probably have to agree. I'd say the context and stuff, like, in what we're seeing and the tone of everything that we're seeing, it all fits. Like it all makes sense. The problem is the film has done a very good point, or at least it's done a very good job up to this point, trying to disguise what it, uh, is. It's like, okay, they're trying to hide the fact that there's a homosexual undertone to the whole thing, which I kind of feel like defeats the purpose of what this film is, which is meant to be a kind of fun expression of innocent homosexuality and man love. Okay. Yeah. And then it kind of just falls flat with all the rest of the fun stuff. So, I mean, I would say, like, with the shower scenes and everything that's kind of going on there, it kind of keeps that visibility context idea relatively quite low because it's literally blink and you'll miss it moment.
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I guess, when you think about it in terms of visibility and context and you lump them together, maybe one of these days we're going to split them up.
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Okay.
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One of these days in the podcast, I'm going to change my mind and we're going to do visibility and then context, because visibility is a .5 context is a five for being honest, because I feel like maybe it's not even a five, because it also doesn't make a lot of sense for it to be there. But I like it being there because it's funny.
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It works in the context of what it is. It's this kind of weird otherworldly kind of moment because YMCA is not really like that, let's be honest. But at the same time, it just doesn't take it far enough. And I feel like I can. The whole film is kind of an injustice.
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I don't have anything to say about it because I'll have to ask someone. I'll have to ask people what they think about it. Maybe people tell us, uh, what they think about it.
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Yeah. Probably.
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I would say I didn't think of it that way. Yeah, but maybe it is.
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Well, the thing is, and I guess it can always stray too far in the other direction because we already spoke about cruising, which you could definitely see is like, that film very much shows it as like a CD dark underground.
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A bit exploitative.
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A bit exploitative. And also it does not show people who are gay and the best of light at all. It's like this hidden, secretive, taboo.
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What did you rate the film overall?
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A one and a half. Because I didn't like it. No. For like 20 minutes. It's quite fun. All the musical numbers are quite fun. The fact that it doesn't have enough musical numbers because they made more than just fucking four songs.
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Yeah. And that Milkshake song is terrible.
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That Milkshake song is fucking so bad. Awful. But for the most part, it just comes across just like it's pretending to be something that it isn't or like, trying to keep all kind of deep secret.
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Yes. You definitely came out of this differently. Uh, than I did.
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You can have fun with it. And I guess if you're just going in there to be like, yeah, this is a good time and stuff. I'm like, that's cool. Um, but I guess it's some of the language and it's just kind of. Some of the things that are said and implied during the course of the film where I'm just kind of like. And for the most part, it's just not funny stuff in it that's just like. It's not funny. And it barely classes as a musical. Like, barely.
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I gave this film two stars. I almost gave it more. But then I remembered how long it was and, um, how bored I was after YMCA and how I didn't think it was a very clear story. And I didn't know who a lot of the characters were. I didn't know their names when they kept showing up or what anyone's relationship was to one another.
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But there's that silly woman that's obviously she's just a comedy of errors. She's the one with the baguette. She gets trapped in the phone booth. She stands on a socket.
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And I think she was Sam the top models agent, right? That's who she was. And she kept popping. I think that's who she was, right. It makes no sense.
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Our first introduction to her is in our office.
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Yeah.
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And she has to get her assistant to stop her revolving chair from revolving because she's getting busy. So that was our introduction to that nonsense. But there's also, I mean, Gutenberg's mum turns out, not his actual mother, but the person as their mother is there. She refers to them all as the lovely boys.
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The lovely boys?
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The lovely boys.
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They are lovely boys.
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Uh, it's like, oh, my God, their music just makes me want to dance. It's like, okay, that's fine. I feel like there's a story to the Village People that can be told, and it can be told better. It's just not really done very well here.
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It's going to be another one of those, like, Elton Sean stories or Bohemian Rhapsody, and I'm just not interested.
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They've done the David Boy, they've done the Queen, and they've done the Elton John already very much within the last couple of years.
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Elvis one coming out soon.
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Yeah, that looks like the fucking ass. Holy shit. Yeah, hopefully there's a Dick in that, because I would cover that one like crazy, because that just looks like it's going to be a colossal macaroni mess.
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The last thing I want to say is that this was Caitlyn Jenner's first film, who was not in another, um, film until the 2011 Adam Sandler movie Jack and Jill.
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Okay.
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Uh, I thought you'd laugh more at that, because that movie is terrible and I also kind of love it.
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And it's one of the worst films ever made. It's about as bad as White Chicks as well.
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It's got that Al Pacino part where he sings about dumb casinos.
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Fucking dumb.
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Never forget that. Well, thank you so much for enjoying as much as we possibly could. Can't Stop the Music with Me today, right?
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We tried. We tried to enjoy it.
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I still enjoyed it a bit.
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One thing I'll say is better than in the cup.
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You know what? We didn't ask. I didn't ask if you would recommend this movie.
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Oh, yeah, I don't know. That's a really hard one. I think it depends on the person. It depends on your temperament, because is this as enjoyable as, say, a Mamma Mia in one of those two movies? I would say no, because the quality of the music elevates it more. And plus, there's stuff in those Mamma Mia movies that will never cover on the podcast, sadly. I mean, we could and like one of the other formats that we have for the show, but the stuff, um, that happens in those films is, like, bona fide ridiculous. And it's actually funny, even though it's probably not meant to be funny with this. It's obviously trying to be funny, but it just kind of falls flat. I think if you had enough to drink. Yes, you would be perfectly fine with Can't Stop the Music, I think. I think if you'd have like a few babies and you were sitting down and you had an affinity towards at least four songs The Village People ever committed to making, I think, uh, you would probably have a decent time with this one.
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I think if you had a couple of drinks and also how to do your laundry and do the dishes at the same time. This is perfect.
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Yes. And also, if you're a fan of, say, like, 1950 comedies or at least that kind of style of sick comedy stuff, I think you'd be okay if you like Doris Day. Although even putting her in the same fucking bread as this movie would be as a bit of an insult to Doris day, but yeah, it's that kind of thing. Yeah, it's like a comedy, but it's not funny. There you go. That's my endorsement.
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Uh, okay, well, uh coming to you from saddle tramps. Saddle Tramp that's the name of the disco.
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Yeah, the disco place.
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I have been Laura.
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I've been Ryan.
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Thank you, guys. We will see you next time.
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Unfortunately uh, bye.