Our Galentine's Special is here with special co-host Renée as we discuss Nicholas Stoller's 2008 masterpiece: FORGETTING SARAH MARSHALL.
It's that time of year again. Every February, couples unite in celebrating their love and single lonesome souls lament or celebrate their single-dom. Some call it Valentine's. Other's call it Galantine's. Since Ryan isn't a woman, he's stepping out on this one and taking a break from editing and telling jokes to spend some time on an island and Laura has invited her best friend Renée to fill in to talk about the top shelf romantic comedy: FORGETTING SARAH MARSHALL.
This one broke some boundaries back in 2008 and persists as a wonderful romantic comedy, mixed in with some real raw emotion, and of course, full-frontal male nudity.
Sit back and enjoy a change of pace and far less cynicism in this special all-ladies edition of On The Bitte.
Laura: Did you make notes?
Renee: Uh, only a little bit.
Laura: I'm interested to see what you have in your notes.
Renee: It's just nothing.
Laura: There's nothing.
Laura: Well, hello there. Welcome to on the BiTTE the podcast that uncovers full frontal male nudity in cinema. My name is Laura, and for the first time ever, I am not joined by my co host Ryan, but I am joined by my interim co host, Renee.
Renee: Hello. Happy to be here.
Laura: I'm so excited that you're here. And we planned this out for a little bit. It was actually Ryan's idea because we thought, what would it be like for a couple of ladies to get in the seats and do a little kind of, uh I don't want to sound like a dork, but a Galentine's Day speciale.
Speaker C: Yeah.
Renee: Host before bros. Uteruses before deuteriuses, ovaries before bropheries.
Laura: Yeah.
Renee: I like ladies.
Laura: And we go, what kind of film would we talk about? It's February. Valentine's Day is coming up, obviously. So we go, let's do a rom.com.
Renee: Yeah, romcom. That's like one of my favorite genres.
Laura: Yeah, I figured the only way we talked about this, the only way I could get you on alone, get you alone in this room with me is ah, to do a rom.com.
Renee: I love rom coms and I love zombie movies, and that's basically it.
Laura: You missed out on the zombie penis movie that we did.
Renee: Are there any zombie actual zombie penises, though? I know, like, there's a penis in a zombie movie, but do you ever see zombie penises?
Laura: Well, it's been a long day. I'm not seeing them in my visual memory right now because usually when you tell me about a penis, it pops into my brain and I can see it on the back of my eyelid.
Renee: But this time, I don't know when that moment comes, that'll be my next time.
Laura: In the middle of this episode, I'll just start screaming, oh, I remember. But we're not going to talk about zombie penises now.
Renee: Romcoms. Romcoms.
Laura: Romcoms.
Laura: And we're going to talk about the 2008 comedy Forgetting Sarah Marshall, which is, I don't know, a classic full frontal male nudity film, a classic romantic comedy. And I feel like everybody so many people have seen this movie. It's very popular.
Speaker C: Yeah.
Renee: It has an all star comedic cast. It's very likable movie.
Laura: Everyone in this movie is recognizable. You're absolutely right.
Renee: Yeah.
Laura: Even the side characters.
Renee: Yeah. You keep having m moments. You're like, oh, that person, that person's in it.
Speaker C: Yeah.
Laura: And especially there's I mean, back in 2008, a lot of those people went on to do even more and more famous and more popular things.
Renee: So that's nice.
Laura: It's the Judd Apatow gang. I'll give you the synopsis first.
Renee: Yeah.
Laura: I pulled this from Letterbox, as I usually do, and I don't like it. I think it's a bad synopsis.
Laura: But let me put on my voice when Sarah Marshall dumps aspiring musician Peter Bretter for Rock star Aldous Snow, peter's world comes crashing down. His best friend suggest that Peter should get away from everything and fly off to Hawaii to escape all his problems. After arriving in Hawaii and meeting the beautiful Rachel Janssen, peter is shocked to see not only Al de Snow in Hawaii, but also Sarah Marshall.
Renee: That's it. Did it say his friend? Isn't that his brother?
Laura: It is his, um no, it is his stepbrother.
Speaker C: Yeah.
Renee: Or half brother. It's a brother of some sort.
Laura: It's a brother of some sort.
Speaker C: Yeah.
Laura: I believe that they said it was either his half brother or his stepbrother because they don't look enough alike to pull off actual yeah, his brother is, um well, Jason Siegel plays the main character, Peter breader. Kristen Bell is also in this movie. Sarah Marshall mila Kunis russell Brand. Bill Hader plays the brother. And Jonah Hill, there's. Ah, so many of them.
Renee: I mean, you get a little bit of Paul Rudd. Uh, get a little Paul Rudd.
Laura: Uh, Jack McBrayer. I mean, so good.
Laura: So this was directed by Nicholas Stoller. And he and Jason Siegel have a long relationship. They met back when they were well, Nicholas Stoller helped write Undeclared. Did you ever see that show? No, it was another Judd Apatow show that came out after Freaks and Geeks. Did you see freaks and Geeks?
Renee: Yes, I remember it a little bit, but I watched, uh, that yeah, it's so good.
Laura: I think there's 18 episodes. I came to it later after it already been canceled because it only had one season. And everyone that you watch now is in that show. Like Seth Rogen is in it. Jason Siegel, James Franco.
Renee: I need to go back and watch it.
Laura: Linda Cardellini, Martin Starr. So many people.
Renee: They formed friendships forever.
Laura: Probably they did well because they all came together because of Judd Apatow. Um, and they were all so young. And then I think they just kind of kept working together, and they found themselves and through working with Judd Apatow, they were able to kind of launch their careers. Which is nice. That's nice for them.
Laura: But I found this out today. But Nicholas Stoller is an English born director, but he grew up in Miami as a Florida boy. This movie's his directorial debut, uh, which is nice as well. Uh, he's directed a bunch of stuff.
Speaker C: He did?
Laura: Yes, man. Um, he directed Get Him to the Greek, which was like the follow up to this movie, the Muppet movie that Jason Siegel wrote. They also collaborated again and did five year engagement. Um, and then Nicholas Stoller also directed the two. You remember that neighbors movies with Zac Efron?
Renee: Yes. Did not watch it. But I remember you didn't see those existed.
Laura: I recommend they're very funny. They're both very funny. And he also recently wrote and directed Bros. Oh, I did just watch that.
Speaker C: Yeah.
Renee: I thought it was good.
Laura: Yeah.
Renee: I recently heard someone call it like, um, a gay movie for straight people.
Laura: Though it follows those classic rom M.Com tropes step by step. And I have a feeling that maybe gay relationships aren't but aren't exactly like that.
Renee: And they address that multiple times in the film. But then they still do the same classic setup.
Laura: That's true. But forgetting Sarah Marshall, here we are.
Laura: I think this is an interesting movie. We have to do this differently because I know everyone's seen this movie. We're not going to go step by step and go through the whole film like we normally do. Just, um I mean, I want to bring up a bunch of stuff because I really like this movie. But I think it's interesting because this is the first film that Jason Siegel it's not the first film that he wrote, but it's the first film that got picked up and that know, produced and made. It's an interesting kind of story into Jason Siegel himself. Because a lot of stuff that happened in the film happened to him in real life. But it's like a comedy. But there's this underlying drama throughout the whole just it's about a man who is trying to figure himself out, trying to figure out his own identity after this huge breakup that he wasn't expecting, who hates his job, who hates his life. And he's really trying to rediscover who he is and his passions. He cries a lot in this film.
Renee: He does cry. A crying woman sound cry.
Speaker C: Yeah.
Laura: That's another thing that happened to him in real life. But it's further in my notes, so I'll bring it up later.
Renee: One, like, sad man thing that they put in the beginning that I love is just a reoccurring element. Later in the film is that weird, giant bowl of cereal. It's like a mixing bowl of cereal. And I've never eaten that bowl of cereal that big. Have you?
Laura: No.
Speaker C: Yeah.
Renee: And then even once he has his life together, like later when they're showing him get his shit together and figuring himself out, he busts out the cereal bowl. Like the big cereal bowl, I'm pretty sure. And it's just still part of who he is. And I think that's adorable.
Laura: He just really likes a big bowl of cereal. And he brings up the container, right, that keeps cereal fresh, super fresh. But every time he makes a bowl of cereal, he almost uses the whole box.
Renee: How could he ever have stale cereal with the amounts he eats so much? One box per is a serving to him. And I just love that. And I, uh, wish I could live.
Laura: That kind of lifestyle. That's kind of how I am with, like, potato chips.
Laura: Right in the beginning of the film. And we're talking four minutes into the film, we have our first penis scene of two. Yeah, it's at four minutes and 25 seconds into this film, there's an extended and a theatrical version of this movie. Um, I always watch the extended. It doesn't matter if the theatrical is good.
Renee: I still yeah, I just most recently watched the extended. I don't know. That's what we watched.
Laura: I just want the extra treats. I want to see what else that they could have done. And there's some extra good stuff in this movie. There's a whole scene with, like, Kristen Wiig and this yoga portion, which isn't in theatrical that I really like. So this penis scene in the beginning of the film, there's, uh, three shots. There's three penis shots. So we're talking four minutes, 25 five minutes, and, like five minutes and 47 seconds. So, like, within basically a minute, there's.
Renee: Three different so I only remember two in the beginning, and I don't know which one I lost. Like, he drops the towel. There it is. They cut back to him at some point. There it is. And I guess I don't know when.
Laura: He stands up again.
Speaker C: Uh oh.
Renee: Yeah, I think that's the other one I caught. So there's just, like, a secret penis in there. I must have looked away for a couple of seconds.
Laura: They were speaking about it in the commentary, how originally, that last shot had 13 frames. So there's 13 frames of a penis. And then they were like, maybe we should cut it down. We'll cut it down to 1010 frames.
Speaker C: Okay.
Laura: But then it just kept getting missed. So they had to add back in those, like, three tiny little frames. So you could see that penis just enough. Uh, yeah, I feel like you could.
Renee: See yeah, yeah, you definitely can see this.
Laura: So this scene actually was inspired by real events. Obviously, Jason Siegel wrote this film. So this whole breakup story, um, is kind of well, the whole Sarah Marshall thing is kind of like an amalgamation of his past relationships. But apparently this particular scene kind of came from a time when there was a girl that Jason Siegel was dating. She calls him from the airport and is like, I want to see you. So he thinks, okay, awesome. She's coming over for sex, right? So he's, like, getting ready, showering. And so he's waiting for her naked. And she comes in, and he does that, like in the movie, he does that kind of, like, wiener slapping against his legs thing, which he called the Old East West. Is that what he calls it? And then immediately she goes, we have to talk. And while the breakup the actual breakup in real life is happening, she asked, uh, him to put on clothes. And he has to spend the second half of the breakup picking out his breakup clothes. And he's like, that is the hardest outfit anyone will ever pick out in their entire life, is the outfit you're going to get broken up with in.
Renee: I would have just put on, like, a robe or some boxers.
Laura: I know, right? He said he ended up coming out with, like, a blue button up shirt and, like, khaki pants. Professional yeah, professional breakup artist.
Renee: That's that scene kind of where she's like, she's telling him to put your clothes on so we can break up. And he's like, no, because I know it'll be over once I put my clothes on. I was just like, oh, my God. I would just leave. If you're like that over someone, you're breaking up with them, and they just are in front of you naked. It's kind of creepy.
Speaker C: Gross.
Renee: I would be like, okay, so bye, then. Uh, you're not going to find clothes. I'm leaving.
Laura: Um, yeah, you don't need to stay in that situation. I don't know how long I don't remember how long they were dating in the film.
Renee: Five years.
Laura: Five years.
Speaker C: Okay.
Renee: Yeah. Spoiler for one whole year. She was having an affair. Yeah. Five years together.
Laura: You got to give someone a little bit of time. Five years. Yeah. You got to give them the benefit of the doubt.
Renee: I mean, I would just come back and talk to them about it later when they're dressed. I'd be like, we're breaking up. Put your clothes on. And they don't and be like, okay, I'm leaving. I don't want to look at the dick of my past.
Laura: I just want to see the dick of my future.
Renee: Which she already had.
Laura: I guess that's true. Her, like, interim penis, I think I'd be okay with it.
Renee: But then he also tries to pull her near and stuff. And I'm like, oh, that's like that's too much.
Laura: Also, like, freshly showered, so you're a little bit moist. Yeah. And you have to hold their sticky body. Yeah, that's not true. Or that's not a lot of fun. Well, it's not meant to be sexy, at least.
Renee: And they're definitely not meant to be sexy. Um, it's there because it is.
Laura: Also he had said that when this was happening in real life, he wanted it to hurry up and finish because he thought it was so funny that he wanted to write it down in the moment.
Renee: Well, that's good that his comedic brain was comforting him already.
Laura: That's true. He's like, I'm a writer. I've got to write this down. Uh, please leave because I already know you're breaking up with me. I might as well just make something good out of it. So eventually, he just kind of, like, tuned her out and was like, okay.
Renee: I wonder how that woman felt once she watched this. She's just like, wow. Uh i, uh, don't know. That was me. I inspired this. Well, I guess he really inspired it. He was the one that was just, like, naked.
Laura: Yeah, that's true. I don't think he speaks to this person anymore. He doesn't say who it was. So I mentioned Linda Cardellini, who he dated in the show Freaks and Geeks. But they also dated in real life.
Renee: Okay.
Laura: And so people always assume that it's her, and he lightly denies it.
Renee: Okay?
Laura: So you never know.
Renee: Never know. You never know who it is.
Laura: She's in grandma's boy. Have you seen that one?
Renee: I have, but a long time ago. I don't really remember a lot about it.
Laura: I watched it recently, and she's in it and she's great. And I showed it to Ryan, who didn't find it amusing at all. That's a shame. I saw that in theater all by myself.
Speaker C: It was awesome.
Laura: I had a great time. This scene's pretty infamous. You're breaking up. You're naked. You see this penis a few times. Um, apparently there was one of the first screenings of the film. He took his family to go see it, right? And he didn't tell his mother that he was going to be naked. And he thought it would be funny, a funny joke, and kind of look over when it happens and see what she'd say. So when the scene comes on, he looks over and he can see his father cracking up, absolutely dying of laughter. His sister also cracking up. And then he sees his mom and sees kind of a single tear roll down her cheek. And he's like, why are you crying? And she's like, why didn't you tell me? He goes, like, I thought it'd be funny. And she goes, this is not a funny joke. And then she ended up having to email her entire family and just said, I just want to make you aware about Jason's full frontal nudity. But I do want to emphasize that it is completely in context.
Renee: So she defended it.
Laura: She defended it.
Speaker C: She defended it.
Laura: But she didn't like it. Yeah, she wasn't a big fan.
Renee: I mean, if I were in her position, I'd like a heads up about it, too. But then she also raised this human being must know his sense of humor and be, you know, I've created this person, and he thinks this is funny.
Laura: That's my boy. That's my that's my boy up.
Laura: So and it was also apparently Judd Apatow's kind of like Mo to have leading man, full frontal he really wanted leading man, full frontal nudity. And apparently Jason Siegel said that Judd Apatow made him show him his penis before they filmed it, just to make sure it looked normal.
Renee: What if it didn't?
Laura: I don't know.
Renee: Would he have not used him or used a prosthetic?
Laura: Or maybe they would have done different shots. So you'd have a body double in there because they did a full wide.
Renee: Shot yeah, of that whole thing.
Laura: So you know who it belongs to. But yeah, I wonder. They would have had to have switched it up a bit. But that would make me sad. Let the penises be penises.
Speaker C: Yeah.
Renee: They're all unique. They're all unique.
Laura: They're all little snowflakes. And they all should be proud, every single one of them. Man. I think that's well, everyone knows how I feel about prosthetics. Um, the director said that Jason Siegel was mainly nervous that his wiener looked normal, which, um, in a very cold room is kind of hard to achieve. So he said that he'd set up, like, a little private room where he, uh, quote, got his wiener looking normal. And then kind of the crew and the cast would wait, and then he'd yell, like, okay, I'm ready. And then they'd say action.
Renee: He'd come out, okay, so looking normal. Does he mean, like, semi blood flowing to it?
Laura: Yeah, I remember reading articles when the film came out ages ago, and he said I had to get kind of a half chub going. Like a little chub. Just so it's like kind of not just all saggy. It's got some life. Yeah, it's got some life flowing into it.
Renee: Shape to it. You real see it.
Laura: Really see it. I don't typically talk I don't want to comment on how this man's penis looks, but I just think that it's funny that there's so much information on this particular scene. They talk about it. He talks about it to this day because people always ask him. Um, so I just think it's interesting. So the director also said that he had no idea what the audience would put up with in terms of the amount of male nudity. Um, so they had different scenes. Like one where he kept the towel on one from just the waist up. And then they had one where it's just like the top half of the trunk of his penis. And, um, they did test screenings where there was, like, more and people didn't want it. And then so they decided that four shots in one scene is too many. Two is too little.
Renee: Okay?
Laura: Three is just perfect.
Renee: Three is just right.
Laura: Three is the perfect amount of shots for a penis in a film.
Renee: Triple dick, trip dick scene.
Laura: There's things I don't even know if I want to talk about. I wrote down just quotes like the part where they go to the bar after the breakup, like Jason, uh, Siegel and Bill Hader. Yeah, they're meeting all the ladies. And Jason Siegel goes, I want to be my L into someone's tease. And I remember after I saw that maybe it was just this naive young lady when I saw it the first time, I was like, Be my L. Because I was trying to figure out what that meant. I know what it means now.
Renee: Wait, I actually don't think I know what it means.
Laura: Be my l onto someone's tease. Now I'm kind of curious to see what you think it might be.
Renee: Be my l I mean, the T's, I think, is titties.
Speaker C: Yes.
Renee: Blow my load.
Laura: There you go. There you go. But it's champion. I was like, Beat my what?
Renee: Blow my load into someone's titties.
Speaker C: Yes.
Renee: Uh, how romantic.
Laura: That's such romance.
Renee: I love that scene, too, because I actually feel like, I've been that woman that he goes home with that night where a guy is just being so inappropriately direct. And I think it's hilarious. Like, I seriously do. And somehow, eventually, I don't know, at some point, it turns where I'm like, yeah. Oh, well, sure.
Laura: I mean, he's offering it and you know that it's available.
Speaker C: Yeah.
Laura: So it's totally down. See, every time I ever did that to a guy when I was out, it never worked.
Renee: I don't know if I've ever been the one doing that. But, uh, definitely I've had someone be that direct with me. And I'm like, oh, you're funny. Yeah, that's never going to happen.
Laura: Hilarious.
Renee: And then all of a sudden, I'm like, whoops, what did I do?
Laura: You wake up, there's a mattress on the floor. Like, oh, no.
Renee: Uh, and we also need to talk about how he goes to the pediatrician's office the next day. And for no reason. I love the sweetness of someone who's been in a long term relationship and is like, I had sex with another person. I guess I have an STD.
Laura: Did you wear a condom? Yes. Please get out of my office. He just makes him look at his penis.
Renee: He's like, that looks like a real good dick. So there's not just dick scenes, but there's just also dick dialogue, which is.
Laura: There'S lots there's lots of dick dialogue. There's lots of phallic imagery with, uh, different fruit drinks and bananas and chess pieces.
Renee: Yes.
Laura: So it's always, ever present.
Laura: Uh, all of that one of my favorite lines, um, or one of my favorite parts is where after the breakup, he goes into work, right, for Crime Scene. Scene of the crime?
Renee: Yes.
Laura: And he's trying to do the music for this particular scene and then just ends up, like smashing the screen with the I don't know what that some.
Renee: Kind of yeah, yeah, like a music stand or something.
Laura: You're fucking Billy Baldwin, aren't you? And the guy in the sound booth's like, I've got Almond Brothers tickets, man.
Speaker C: I gotta get out of here.
Renee: I watched this with Ty last night. And he goes, oh, my god. Do you know how expensive those screens are? And I'm like, no. Why would anyone know that? I didn't ask him how much, but that was his reaction to that scene. He was very upset about that screen being teared.
Laura: Now I want to know. I'm sure they are expensive.
Renee: Yeah, I'm sure they are. It looked like a very fancy place.
Laura: Well, another one I wrote down. I'm just going to tell you all the things I wrote down. So when really having his full breakdown, before he goes to Hawai, he's at home and he's, like, made an album or a playlist of all the sad love songs.
Renee: Oh, yeah.
Laura: And nothing compares to you as playing. And I think we actually sent you when this happened, like a long voicemail about it. So there was one night that Ryan and I were coming home, and our neighbor was outside of his house in his car in his carport. He had the windows down in his car. All the lights are off. The car is not I don't even think the car is on, but he is blaring nothing compares to you in his car in the dark.
Renee: I do remember you guys sending this message because you're, like, whispering while you're telling the story to us. I'm like, why are they whispering?
Laura: It was just the most authentic and, uh, sad, so sad moment for this man who we've barely spoken to, but he was if you're blaring, nothing compares to you in your car in the dark. You really had had a bad day.
Renee: Yeah.
Laura: Sadness. I know that's a go to sad song. Oh, bon jovi. Um, is it you, uh, give love a bad name?
Renee: Oh, yeah. Ah.
Laura: In your to blame. I used to sing that one.
Renee: Yeah, it was a good one. My current I like breakup songs, but I can't think of any right now. But I like the more empowering, like, I'm finally over you kind of songs. The one I like right now, it's an older ish song, but not old. It's an older, like it's a pop song. Okay. Um, I'm not going to sing it, but it's like, if you don't want to see me, don't go know, don't go places. I'll be out there having a good time, essentially, is how the song does. Ty told me the other day, who sings that? But I can't do a ling something. You know who sings that song? No.
Laura: The only reason I'm going to say this is because I'm familiar with this person's name, but not the music. Is it Dua? Uh, Lipa? Dua lipa?
Speaker C: Yeah.
Laura: I don't know their music.
Renee: Well, I think that's one of their songs.
Laura: Well, you'll have to sing it for me later.
Renee: Yeah. I don't want to hear the real song, not on this. And I'll get half the words wrong. But that's, uh, my new one that I'd like to sing.
Speaker C: Okay.
Renee: Yeah, it's like a three year old song, but I'm all of a sudden into it.
Laura: But I only listen to things like Almond brothers, so I'm way behind. So you showed me a Lizzo song the other day, right?
Renee: Yeah.
Laura: That reminded us of our friendship.
Speaker C: Yeah.
Laura: And I'd never heard that song before, so I need you to keep me updated on yeah.
Renee: I love you bitch.
Laura: Yeah.
Renee: It's a very Galentine y song.
Laura: Yeah. For all the gals out there. I love you, bitch. That's a lovely song.
Laura: Um, I don't know if you're going to be as excited about this as me, but when he gets on the flight to Hawai and he orders an anticipatory drink, which is one of my favorite things, and I've absolutely done that at a bar. And I've always just wanted to say it like, oh, this is an anticipatory order, because I know I'm going to want another drink. I just like to say the word anticipatory.
Renee: Yeah.
Laura: Because it sounds the well, she's not a server. She's the flight attendant who comes up is Catherine Keener's sister, Elizabeth Keener.
Renee: Okay.
Laura: I love Catherine Keener. I'm trying to think of where can I put Katherine Keener to where you yeah, yeah.
Renee: I don't know. I would just watch last night, and I remember the person saying, like, you already have a drink. And I don't remember at all that woman's face.
Laura: I remember seeing her, and I go, that looks like my main lady, Catherine Keener. But it's not. It's her sister, which makes total sense. Catherine Keener is in that newish Showtime show with Jim Carrey called kidding. She is in being John Malkovich.
Renee: Oh, I have seen that.
Laura: She, uh, is in France with benefits. Oh, she's in so I'm not even looking this up. This is from my brain. Catherine Keener. Oh, yeah. You looked her up?
Renee: Woman yes.
Laura: Katherine Keener is on my hot lady list.
Speaker C: Yeah.
Renee: She is super hot. She's like a very hot mom.
Laura: Maybe I like hot moms. Yeah, because Naomi Watts is also on my hot lady.
Renee: Yes, Naomi Watts is very hot.
Laura: She's got some kids. Kira Knightley is also on that list. But I don't know if she I.
Renee: Have no idea if she has children.
Laura: I don't think she probably does. I think she's younger than us.
Renee: Oh, is she?
Laura: She might have been born in maybe, like, 80.
Renee: Yeah, like a couple of years younger than us. All right. Yeah.
Laura: I know who your hot ladies are. Yeah.
Renee: I mean, do you want to tell.
Laura: The world who your hot ladies are? One of them is nominated for an Oscar this year. Um wow. My brain's doing a thing where I can't think of. Her name is Kate Blanchett.
Renee: Yes, kate blanchett. But what was the other one I'm having?
Laura: That's the main one I remember.
Speaker C: Yeah.
Renee: Kate Blanchett is my current does she have children? She doesn't give off mom vibes, that's all. But she's my current hot lady, I think. Yeah.
Laura: She's the definition of.
Renee: My, um, favorite, uh one of my favorite Instagram accounts follows her.
Laura: I love it.
Renee: Scarlett, um, Johansson. She's the other one. I also don't know if she has children, but she does not give off mom vibes.
Laura: She's buried to a Saturday night live.
Renee: She sure is. He's a handsome man. You don't think so? No, he's, like, got a classic charm about him.
Laura: He's a classic white man face.
Renee: Yes, he does. Yeah.
Laura: Like the one that if you saw him in a crowd of people, you would think he's just, um oh, yeah.
Renee: If you saw him in one of those man tank tops at a bar with all his friends, you'd be like, no. Yeah, but when he's wearing his, um, weekend update suit, he's surrounded by all his funny. SNL pals.
Laura: He's kind of cute.
Renee: But I guess what made him really cute to me is knowing that he was married to.
Laura: Elevates him. Because if you see that guy walking down the street with Scarlett Johansson, I mean, you're like, oh, is that your brother?
Renee: Your assistant? Is that your accountant?
Laura: So I know you want to talk about the hotel.
Renee: Oh, yeah. So they go to Hawai.
Laura: They go to Hawai, where you have been, and I have not yeah, I have no references here to what Hawaii actually looks like. And I know there's a lot of shots in this film that look like they're green screenshots, but that's just, uh, legit Hawai.
Renee: So I was wondering, I'm like, are they sometimes not in Hawaii for this? Because it does look like they're green screenshots, but I think they are.
Laura: Believe it, every single one of those is actually Hawaii. Even the ones that look fake, the ones where they did shoot elsewhere, where they had to maybe do pickups or reshoots are in La. Those are all interiors.
Renee: Oh, they're all interior shots. So I haven't been to this place in Hawaii. Oahu, I've never been there. Um, but I love Hawai and I love nice hotels and stuff. So I was like, this hotel looks really nice.
Laura: Looks like a luxury.
Renee: Let me look and see how much it is. Because they're like, these are celebrities staying here. Uh, two celebrities chose to go to this place, so it must be very nice. Well, in the movie, they chose to mhm. So I looked up the room that they're staying in and they're like the beach bungalows and they're 1200 a night. Yes, I can't afford that.
Laura: No, but I thought that they were.
Renee: Going to be like, I don't know, um, three grand a night, something like that. They are pretty basic bungalows, but they.
Laura: Are right on the water on the ground floor.
Renee: The ones on the ground floor where they're both staying at in the end. But her and the singer are staying at, ah, in the beginning. And then I think I found his original room, which is the nicest room that they have. Doesn't actually have a piano in it, um, but otherwise looks kind of similar. And it's about I think it was 3200 a night. So she quotes him 6000 or something, um, in the movie, and he's like, absolutely not. But in reality, it's like a three grand room. I think I'm looking regular season. It's normally a three grand room. Can you imagine the world where you just show up to a hotel and this hot woman is like, you know what? You could stay here for four nights.
Laura: Free in our most expensive suite.
Renee: No problem, man.
Laura: Here you go.
Renee: I just feel bad for you.
Laura: And it's not even yeah, it goes really fast. Oh, she's already here with another dude. She met him for maybe 15 seconds before Sarah Marshall shows up.
Renee: If I was that woman again, maybe this is the hose before bros thing, but I'd be like, this man is a stalker. He didn't accidentally come to the same place she's, uh, at. He did this on purpose. He knows somehow. I would just immediately have been suspicious of him. I wouldn't have been like, I feel bad for you. I'd be like, did you know she was coming here?
Laura: Like, she also, uh, Mila Kunis is standing there as this interaction between Sarah Marshall and Peter happen, and he makes that joke. He's like, I came here to murder.
Speaker C: Yeah.
Laura: Which is hilarious. But she's also standing there, like, witnessing this interaction between these two people. It doesn't fill me with confidence.
Renee: No, it wouldn't fill me with confidence either, but maybe they were meant to be. And she has a similar sense of humor to him, so she's already picking up his good vibrations or something. But I would have been like, Security, uh, we have a big celebrity here. Uh, and I think her stalker is here, and you need to get him off the property. But no, instead, I'm just going to give him the nicest room for free. Yay.
Laura: Yeah. Honestly, there's some holes here.
Renee: Yeah, but that's okay.
Laura: I accept them.
Renee: Yeah, I mean, the other thing is, I'm so jealous of him because he gets to be friends with all these cool Hawaiian people almost immediately. He only stays there for, like, four days, and he's BFFs with all of them.
Laura: Yeah, that's true.
Renee: I mean, have you ever gone to a place like hotel or, I don't know, um, hostel, campsite, anything, and just immediately became friends with all the staff and locals within days?
Laura: Yes.
Renee: Oh, God, you're so much cooler than me. I'm just kidding.
Laura: I did stay in an airbnb that it was a shared airbnb.
Renee: Okay.
Laura: And I made friends with, uh, the people that lived there, and they took us out around the town.
Renee: Oh, well, that's nice. So you are cool. I remember. What I'm thinking of is obviously me. Uh, this has never happened to I'm just not that cool. But every time I go somewhere with my younger brother Kevin, it doesn't matter. He immediately is friends with everyone there, and somehow, all of a sudden, smoking weed and playing guitar with, um, them in the middle of the night, it doesn't matter where we go. We've gone to different campsites where there's just staff and he's friends with all of them. By the morning, we'll go to Vegas and he'll tell me that he made ten friends the night before. He just m immediately makes friends with everyone. And I think I mean, that's very cool. I just don't have that. But Jason Siegel's got it. His fictional character.
Laura: Yeah. Well, your brother's cooler than us, M. Yeah. I'll talk to people, but I never make that real connection.
Renee: Yeah.
Laura: Ah, kind of want to check in.
Laura: Just kind of want to check out the room.
Renee: Yeah, maybe it's me, actually. Maybe I think it's cool that people want to be friends with them. But also, I just want to go be alone.
Laura: Um, yeah, maybe we don't want any more friends. I don't know of how interesting this is, but I'll tell you anyway. The lobby that is in the film that they're always kind of in yes, beautiful lobby they built that the film paid for that to be built so that they weren't interrupted by the actual lobby and check in registration area. But guests would still walk through there. And, uh, they were all speaking in the commentary, wondering if they kept it, because they go, the one we built is way nicer than their original lobby.
Renee: Why wouldn't they keep it? It looked beautiful. Those big windows.
Laura: Yeah.
Renee: I would love to have her job where she's just standing at that desk, like, just looking at that view all day. Magnificent.
Renee: So is it the first night that he gets girl drink drunk and has that banana drink and stuff like that? Is it the first night or I think it is.
Laura: I believe it is. I'm trying to place it in my head because there's also where does the scene come in where he's crying in his room?
Renee: Oh, yeah. That's also the first night, I think the first day.
Laura: Maybe he's crying in his I think I feel like he goes up to the suite, and maybe he starts crying, and then maybe he can say, okay, I got to go out. And he goes out for a drink. Yeah. Jason Siegel was telling this story, so because so many of these funny moments in the film happen to him, because art imitates life, as they say. Do they say, you know, in the film, he's crying. Mila Kunis calls him up and know, they said they got, uh, complaints about a woman crying. And he's like, oh, it must be the woman above me. She sounds really upset. And she's like, well, you're on the top floor. So apparently a girlfriend of his was physically attacking him in his past. Like, he was getting physically abused by a girlfriend, and he was screaming, and he was the only one screaming. And a guard came to the door and was just slamming on the door. And when they let him in, he's like, you got to keep it down. It sounds like there's a woman being murdered in here.
Renee: Wow. So that was also straight from his life. He's just straight from his pulling some of these painful, weird, uncomfortable relationship moments.
Laura: I know, it's, like, funny at the end there sounds like a woman's being murdered, but he was actually being attacked by someone, which is not okay.
Renee: Yeah, it's not okay. But maybe the guard coming helped that woman come to reality and stop being abusive.
Laura: Well, hopefully he broke up with her. Got to get out.
Renee: Get out of the house.
Speaker C: Yeah.
Laura: I think it was right after that, where he's down there in the bar and he's got the banana with, like, the lime mushroom top on the banana, and he's doing all those voices. What was the one? I've never seen Sex in the City.
Speaker C: Oh.
Renee: Uh, he's like, oh, gosh, if I try to do it all, just get the Sex in the City characters wrong. I'm so and so, and I like to have sex with everybody.
Speaker C: Yeah.
Laura: I'm not interested in watching Sex in the City.
Renee: It was good. I mean, old Sex in the City was lovely know, in that moment in time. I'm not going back and watching it. It's no Gossip Girl or anything.
Laura: Yeah. It's never going to be a Gossip Girl. Which is funny because then there's, like, the new Sex in the City, and then there's the new Gossip Girl.
Renee: Uh huh.
Laura: Um both which have full frontal male nudity in them. They do.
Renee: Both of the new ones do.
Laura: But the Sex in the City one is a prosthetic because that's what HBO does. And they are fully employing all the prosthetic creators out there to make all these wieners for their HBO shows. Which makes me so mad. But I don't know about the one in Gossip Girl. If that's a, uh, prosthetic, I have a feeling that it's not. Oh, okay.
Renee: But I will in the future episode I'll look into.
Speaker C: Yeah. Yeah.
Renee: The only other thing of note to me was the sex scenes with what, um, is his name Aldis? Aldis Snow. Aldous Snow. And Sarah Marshall, which she's so clothed in, which I thought was funny because there's a full dick in it. And then she's like, wearing a top and like a skirt and having sex. Like a bathing suit top, I think. And then a skirt.
Laura: Yeah.
Renee: Like sarong.
Laura: Yeah. There's a part where I'm like, there's no way there's full penetration here. But I also do, like, uh, him.
Renee: Using kind of yoga moves. Yeah.
Laura: She's so small. She's so small. And he must be so incredibly strong because he does that thing I don't know what that he's, like, arches his.
Renee: Back full back bend.
Laura: Yeah, full back bend. Thank you. And she's just on top of him. And I'm like, that's incredible.
Speaker C: Yeah.
Renee: She is a petite woman, though. She's short and she's just, like a small person. She's so fit. Yes, mega fit.
Laura: Uh, she does yoga. Like, both those two do yoga, or at least did back in 2008. It's been a while.
Renee: You could tell you could tell from the yoga scenes that they did yoga. That was not, um they immediately got into all those I mean, yeah. It seemed very natural to them, I.
Laura: Guess, when they all had gotten.
Speaker C: To.
Laura: Or Kristen Bell thought it'd be a good idea for them all to get together and do yoga. So kind of the cast got together and they were know yoga poses and whatnot. But then obviously they were showing off because they can do it really well. And I think everyone else had been drinking mai tais and stuff. Uh, so most of the commentary is them talking about how many mai tais they drunk, how many beers they have, and how they were drunk during the scene. And, uh oh, I only had to shoot three days, and I was there for a know, just enjoying hawai, like.
Renee: The people with smaller roles and stuff.
Laura: Yeah.
Renee: Like her, like Kristen Wigg.
Laura: She probably oh, yeah, she was probably there and just had a lovely time. Jack McBrayer, I think, only shot eight days, but he was there for a month. But he's like, I couldn't get sun until the last week.
Renee: It'll look the same.
Speaker C: Yeah.
Laura: Uh, that's great. You had to stay under the sun. Oh, there's one part, and it actually happened earlier that I just remembered that I love so much, is when they have kind of like that I don't know if it's not a breakfast buffet, but there's like an outside kind of like a luau, but it was during the day. Okay. And Al de Snow shows up and they want him to sing a song. Oh, yes. And so he goes up and sings Inside of you.
Speaker C: Yes.
Renee: Beautiful song.
Laura: Such a good song. Yeah, I love that song. I remember when this came out, I bought the soundtrack.
Speaker C: No, you didn't.
Laura: Of course I did. Most of my albums as a young person up until my 20s was movie soundtracks. I am not lying. Like, I had the soundtrack to, um, that movie called Dangerous Minds, the one with Pfeiffer.
Renee: Oh, that I mean, that's a good soundtrack.
Laura: Um, Armageddon had an amazing soundtrack.
Renee: I had that. Oh, yeah.
Speaker C: Huh.
Laura: Well, um, I'm trying to think of any in particular, but I had so.
Renee: Many, and this was one of them. That makes sense. It makes sense. Inside of you.
Speaker C: Yeah.
Laura: And they wrote those songs, I think, uh, Jason Siegel, uh, wrote those songs.
Renee: Wow.
Laura: So good. Anyway, but he goes up and he's singing Inside of you. Everyone's listening. And Jonah Hill stands there and he goes, I just went from six to midnight. And he adjusts his wiener and puts it underneath his belt. And I died. I love that so much. Um, I had a boyfriend was my first boyfriend when I was very young. And he told me that he would always have his penis tucked into his belt, like, flipped up.
Renee: What?
Laura: Uh, at all times. So it was never relaxed. So he wouldn't just put on his underwear and his trousers and just have.
Renee: It penis live for it in men's underwear.
Laura: Yes, I do understand. I don't understand why he did this. And he told me so he'd flip it up.
Laura: So I go, so when I hug you, it's just right there. Under there, like under your.
Speaker C: Belt.
Laura: I don't know. And he told me it's because he would get erections. And he was like, if I get an erection, it's already there.
Renee: So it's like, more hidden from people. So it doesn't like poking the show.
Laura: Yeah. So if it's down and relaxed and then if you get an erection, it would, uh, make a show tent. Make your little tent. But if he had it already tucked under his belt and he got in a boner, it would be concealed.
Renee: I wonder what his boner frequency was, because it seems so uncomfortable to live your life that way. It must be a real, real problem to have that kind of boner frequency.
Speaker C: Yeah.
Laura: I mean, hormones. You're a teenager who's probably 18. I was just a tiny bit younger. No one needs to get arrested here.
Renee: Um, but I always thought that was.
Laura: Very strange, and I didn't remember that until this moment, and I want to forget it again. I'm really sorry I brought that up. Yeah, Ryan can edit that, uh, out if he wants. It's pretty gross story. Sorry about.
Speaker C: That.
Laura: So they go to this locals bar.
Speaker C: Yes.
Laura: And we could hear Dracula musical. Um, I have a funny story that I heard Jason Siegel say, all I have are funny stories. But in real life, he wrote a Dracula musical for puppets. It was a real thing that he made, and he wrote it. And he grew up loving the know. I think he kind of grew up as, like, an awkward kid because he was always super tall. Uh, and you get made fun of because you're this big, old tall kid. And he always liked the muppets because they never made fun of anybody. They never made jokes at anyone else's expense. And they all were different. They all looked different, but they all were friends. And he found comfort in that. So he wrote himself a little Dracula musical made out of puppets. When he was in his early 20s. He wrote songs, and he recorded the songs, and he brought them to Judd Apatow. And, uh, this was obviously after Freaks and Geeks, but before he had done Knocked Up, uh, he was trying to find his way. He played the CD for Judd Apatow. Judd Apatow stops the CD halfway through the first song, and he hands it back to him, and he goes, never play this for anybody ever again. Oh, no.
Speaker C: Yeah.
Renee: But then did he use that for this movie? Was it the same stuff?
Laura: I don't know about the same songs. I'm sure that he maybe revisited it, but this isn't too long. I think he made this film when he's in his mid 20s. Yeah. So, um, when he wrote the film, and he goes, I want to figure out how to do something kind of like for the finale at the end of the film. And he brought up the Dracula musical again to Judd. And he goes, dude, this is your film. Just do what you want. And he let him do it. And it's perfect. I think it's such a cute thing in the film.
Renee: So it was never a full on production? No, he was something he was working on. He was assembling this.
Speaker C: Wow.
Renee: There's a lot of real life Jason Siegel stuff in, uh, this I know. I guess it's his first film, uh, that he wrote it all out there.
Laura: Laying everything on the line. He's got nothing. No stories left. They're all here. Picture that he finds in the bathroom of the was it Lazy Joe's?
Renee: Is the name of that something like Lazy Joe's?
Laura: Yeah.
Laura: Um, with Mila Kunis, like, flashing is a body double.
Renee: Oh, I didn't know. Was wondering. I was going to say, like, that's the only other real nudity in this right. Is her flashing photo. But that's not her.
Laura: That is not her. And I believe that in just the theatrical cut of the film, there are no boobies. There are no breasts, except for the flashing photo.
Speaker C: Yeah.
Laura: But in the extended cut, there is a scene where he's going through all of his breakup. Uh, hi.
Speaker C: Sorry.
Renee: We're going backwards in this movie. But yeah, there were a lot of titties there. There was just, like some quick. There was, like a Latin woman or something. She was, like, speaking Spanish. And you see her boobies. They're very big. You see those boobies a lot. Yeah, you're right.
Speaker C: Okay.
Renee: And that was only in the extended okay, that makes sense.
Speaker C: Yeah.
Laura: Do you remember when they're all having dinner together? And I think it's kind of when they're drinking and, uh, the four of.
Renee: Them with kind of two couples.
Speaker C: Yes.
Laura: And they're talking about a film that Sarah Marshall did that nobody saw. And it's about the cell phone that kills.
Speaker C: Yeah.
Laura: It's like, why would a cell phone kill you? It's like, why wouldn't you just hang up or take the battery out? But what's interesting is that they wrote this section of the film and they didn't know that Kristen Bell had been in a film with that premise. There is a movie that she's in. It came out in 2006. So two years before Sarah Marshall came out, called Pulse, which I do believe is a remake of another film. And she's reading the script, and she goes, you guys are making fun of me for this film. And they go, no, we don't. They were being genuine. They'd never seen this movie. Never heard of this movie. And she's like, okay, well, you can keep it in because you are being genuine. Like, you didn't know that I was in a movie that had a very similar premise to that. So she let them make fun of her.
Speaker C: Wow.
Renee: I didn't know that. I kind of want to watch it now because I do like her a lot. I'm sure it's bad and hilarious. Um I mean, I loved her as Veronica Mars. I never watched Veronica gosh that was one of my favorite shows from my younger mean a young female detective.
Laura: Yes.
Speaker C: Yeah.
Renee: That's kind of right up your alley.
Speaker C: Yeah.
Renee: Well, I like yeah. Uh, I probably also if like, what is it? Crime Scene. Scene of the crime. If that was a real show, I probably would also watch that.
Laura: Uh, it is this show. They make all those shows.
Renee: I mean, if she was really in that. Yeah, because I've dabbled in all those other types of shows like that. You know what I mean?
Laura: I don't like those crime shows because.
Renee: I finally have all the seasons of Criminal Minds, and I am working my way through it. Yes, all of the seasons of Criminal Minds. That's where they live. I've been looking for kind of years to try to find all the seasons of Criminal Minds.
Laura: I should apologize to Ty for that.
Renee: He's watching way more criminal minds.
Laura: Uh, he gets to see there are.
Renee: A lot of celebrities in that show because it's really I mean, it's good for what it is. It's like a crime soap opera, but.
Laura: That'S a little bit better than a soap opera.
Speaker C: Amazing.
Renee: Love it so much.
Laura: Oh, my gosh. Crime scene.
Renee: Seeing the crime I've been all.
Laura: In.
Laura: So our final penis scene, because we get a doubler in this film. I have two different times. Not that it matters, but it depends on which version you watch. Film is wrapping up. We got to see our Dracula musical. And we get to see the reunion of our two main characters who have fallen in love. Emila Kunis goes to.
Renee: See Jason Siegel dracula play.
Laura: She gets to see the Dracula musical, uh, which is great. A taste for love, right? Yeah taste for love So good. And she goes into his dressing room, and he is there naked because he's changing because he was in a play. And you get sweaty up there. And there it is. That's our last one. Yeah, it's another full wide shot. He's there, and he covers it up with his hand really quick.
Renee: And she's cracking up the whole time, of course, can't stop laughing, which is an appropriate response, I think.
Laura: Therefore, I mean, this is what you get in the comedy films, is a comedy penis. But this is also a penis for showing the vulnerability of our main character, mhm. So he's always putting it out there on the line. He does not keep his cards close to his chest. They are out in the open. Like, everyone knows how he feels. He does not hide anything. Uh, he shares his love freely. He shares his emotions.
Renee: And the way the last relationship ended, the new one will begin with an accidental penis.
Laura: Oh, my gosh, you're right. Like a beautiful penis bookend to your relationship.
Speaker C: Wow.
Laura: I never thought about it like that. That's lovely.
Renee: And then they just make out. And I think she intentionally hides his penis with her body while they're making out. Yes, it's m lovely.
Speaker C: Yeah.
Laura: I don't remember. You got here. When I was finishing up the film and I had the commentary on and Mila Kunis was saying something about Jason.
Renee: Siegel making puppets with his so they I think what she said is every time the camera was on her and she was like I can't remember what kind he was like, doing little puppet things with his penis. I think that's what she said.
Laura: Um, I can't imagine what creepy that means or what was going on. Because there's a huge difference between how everyone talked about the original scene with Kristen Bell. And I heard her in interviews kind of talk about how it was like to film that scene and how was it uncomfortable. Uh, and she's just saying, I didn't really look at it. And I was just doing the scene, and it was kind of uncomfortable for everyone. But we had a good time. And everyone was wearing T shirts that had, like, the statue of David on it for the penis. Uh, you know, they kind of tried to make it more and but she was being very kind of closed off about yeah. But then when Mila Kunis talks about it, she's like, oh, he's making puppet jokes with his dick. And it's like and they're all laughing about it. So it's definitely a different kind of working environment between the two.
Speaker C: Yeah.
Renee: She seems a little more easy going, maybe, or just kind of silly and open with nudity, maybe.
Speaker C: Yeah.
Renee: Um, I always wonder about because they have intimacy coordinators now in films and stuff. And I always wonder what the setup is with the conversations that happen around that. How do you feel about this? And stuff. You agree to it, but then make sure everyone's still comfortable.
Speaker C: Right? Yeah.
Renee: But then also we were talking about the sex scenes with Sarah Marshall analyst.
Speaker C: HM.
Renee: He's fully lifting her up. So there's got to be some groin on groin action there. Did they use the yoga mat in between to give them some space? I always wish I could know those weird little details of the intimate scenes. Like, how intimate was it really? How much fabric was between?
Laura: Maybe I'm a creep. No, I think maybe we need to get in touch with an intimacy coordinator because I am interested.
Renee: I've heard, um, different movies, like, they cut like a yoga mat and they tape it. Really? Yeah. So the guy's junk isn't really pressing up against the woman for her comfort. I think different coordinators do different things.
Laura: That's wild.
Speaker C: Yeah.
Renee: And I think that's a super kind of in the last, like, five years, that role even being in now every film probably also has a COVID safety officer, too.
Speaker C: Yeah.
Laura: The intimacy and the, uh, COVID coordinator come in holding hands, and they come as a team, and they're best friends. You got to make sure no one's touching anyone's wiener and no one's coughing on you.
Laura: The only last note I have is about how the part of Aldous Snow played beautifully by Russell Brand. He's so perfect. I could not imagine anyone else in this role, but that role was written for Charlie Hunnam.
Renee: I don't know who that is.
Laura: Charlie Hunnam is interesting. He was in that motorcycle show do you know that motorcycle show where they're.
Renee: All like bad boys in a group?
Speaker C: Yeah.
Laura: Wait, say his name again. Charlie Hunnam. He was also the guy that was meant to be in 50 Shades of Gray.
Speaker C: Sons of Anarchy.
Renee: Sons of Anarchy.
Laura: We can keep that in Ryan.
Speaker C: Thank you.
Laura: Sons of Anarchy. He walked in to let us know.
Renee: Sons of Anarchy listeners, uh, will miss the facts from Ryan. It'll just be Renee and Laura. Guesstimating who was in things and what things were called.
Laura: I can recall the films. I cannot recall TV shows, apparently. But Charlie Hunnam did a table read that went really well, but he ended up turning it down. And he just said that, uh, it just wasn't received well by kind of the inner circle of the production. They weren't happy that he turned it down, and he just stood his ground and he goes, It's nothing personal, guys. I'm just following my North Star. And he just wanted to kind of figure out what his path in acting was, which is around the same time where he was like, I'm not doing 50 Shades of Gray. I'm not doing forgetting. Sarah marshall. Because the original role, uh, was written as an author.
Renee: Oh, not a musician. Correct. Oh, God, that would have been a totally different movie. Completely different.
Speaker C: Yeah.
Laura: He was supposed to be kind of not necessarily stuck up, but just kind of like a cool author who wrote a lot of nice books. And they ended up completely rewriting that role. And not even just the role, like, parts of the film completely. Because when Russell Brand came in, he was just kind of like, oh, hey. And he just looks like that hair is probably crazier in real life. Or when he walked in, but they go, Wait a minute. This guy looks like a rock star. That might work better.
Renee: And absolutely. I mean, thank goodness that guy didn't want to do it because ah, russell Brand's musician character is, um, more painful because he is a successful musician, where Jason Siegel's character is, like, not fully following his passion, just doing those tones. But he's like a real musician, just not successful yet. And so I thought that that was more what made it a stronger film, is that it was more hurtful that she moved on to a successful huh. That was I think that actor made the right call for everyone.
Renee: Wait, so was he in Sense of Iraqi before or after this, I don't know, timeline when that came out and.
Laura: When this was like, we need. Ryan again. Well, I just like the idea of.
Renee: The world where Sons of Anarchy is afterwards. And he's just like, I need to.
Laura: Follow my North Star, which brought me.
Renee: To Sons of Anarchy. Yeah, maybe a semi popular motorcycle gang.
Laura: Show he chose Sons of Anarchy. Sons of Anarchy started in 2008. Seven seasons of the Sons of Anarchy versus a month in Hawaii.
Renee: He's like, My North Star says, I just want a steady paycheck for a.
Speaker C: While.
Laura: We were talking about this when you got here to record that. I've never really changed my rating for this film. I've always liked it. I remember seeing it when it came out on my birthday weekend. And a lot of Jason Siegel movies seem to come out late April, which I love. Five, uh, Year Engagement came out on my actual birthday. I Love You, man came out, I do believe, like, right around my birthday. I'll have to double check that. But I remember going to see I Love You, man with my little brother and my mom. And I think my brother hated it, which I don't understand him. Um, I don't understand. But I remember seeing this movie in theater and I was just like, this is perfect.
Renee: Yeah. I do think my rating has changed over the years just because it's never going to be as good as the first time you watch it. I must have laughed so loud the first time I watched this movie.
Laura: This film didn't win any awards, so we don't have to go through it so good.
Renee: I know.
Laura: Um, there needs to be we don't even need to talk about the Academy Awards and how ridiculous it is. I mean, I don't imagine forgetting Sarah Marshall winning an Academy Award. But maybe it should. Maybe it needs to be opened up. I mean, it obviously does. It's a mess. No women directors were nominated at all this year.
Renee: Oh, really? Kind of gross.
Laura: It's kind of gross how that whole thing works.
Laura: Well, I don't know if you want to start, but I want to go through the rating. So we're going to do visibility, uh, and context, which you can put together, and then you can do your rating of the film.
Speaker C: Okay.
Laura: Would you like to begin? Yeah.
Renee: Uh, so it's out of five, right? Out of five.
Laura: It's out of 50 is no nothing.
Renee: And five is all of it. Visibility, I feel like, is a five because you can see it. It's very much there, but it says, hello, and then it comes back for future viewings. Even, um, if you forgot about the penis from the beginning of the movie, it shows up right before the end. So it's like you get to see it. You really get to see it. And you get to be reminded of it. So context, I'm going to call it, um, a three and a half. Okay. Because I think he should have covered I understand. Being upset in the moment and dropping the towel. But then after that, you pick up with the towel and you cover up your penis. So it doesn't really make sense. That keeps being there. But at the end, context is good. So that's why maybe the half gets added to the three. So three and a half. That's my penis review. Wonderful.
Speaker C: Okay.
Renee: All right. What about.
Speaker C: You?
Laura: I'm just going to give it five all around.
Speaker C: Okay.
Laura: Because I feel like, uh, it yeah, you're absolutely right. Visibility is there. It's not on screen for a long time, but it's on screen a few times. And they are all there for I don't want to say they're all there strictly for comedy, because it is there. Also, like I said, to kind of show him being vulnerable. Um, and that's a really tough situation. And in terms of context, I don't know, I think it's different in the way that you would normally see a rom.com. Uh, you don't expect a penis right off the bat. Uh huh. And I also love that it's a true story. Yeah. Because you can't make up. Which is why, in the middle of that breakup, he goes, I need to write this down. This is amazing. I can't believe it. And I like that for him. I like that. They were adamant about putting it in the film. They tried a few different ways, but this is the only way that worked. And the reaction it got I don't know if it necessarily sent waves, but certainly ripples across cinema to where everyone's talking about it, and it added more penises. And films. It was a brave choice. And the right choice, say, like, Sarah Marshall in the film, was the right.
Renee: Choice for me at the time.
Speaker C: Yeah.
Laura: So it can have five, but I.
Renee: Just really like this movie. Yeah.
Renee: Okay. Now, this movie rating time. Full movie rating. Okay. So, um, I felt like when I watched it last night, in my mind, it was like a three and a half. But then I tried to remember the first time I watched it and how much I loved it. And that's not in my letterbox, because I didn't have letterbox way back then. So I give it a four now because it's just such a strong comedy. But it's also like an emotional movie. Um, and it makes me laugh even still to this day. It is a bit long. It is long. And I watched the extended version, so some of that I did to myself. So there are moments like, once you've watched it so many times, there are moments where I'm like, I get a little distracted from watching it because I know what's.
Speaker C: Happening.
Renee: Um, it's a long movie, but it's so good so far.
Speaker C: Wonderful. Yeah.
Laura: There are parts of that movie it's a comedy. There's drama elements. There's real relationship elements to it. There's parts of that movie that really resonated with me in terms of relationships. You know what? I've done that. And that's happened to me. Um, and there's no villain in this film either, at all. Everyone is just a person. Everyone's on their own. You know, you would imagine Sarah Marshall being forgetting Sarah Marshall. You would imagine her to be the villain. But they have that conversation kind of towards the end of the movie where what happened?
Speaker C: Yeah.
Renee: She like, passed out. Yeah, she was the villain until basically she explained her standpoint from the relationship. Like, she went to therapy. She tried to do all these sex tricks and, uh, she tried and then you get some empathy for her. But it's like, okay, dude, you could have broke up with them a year ago still.
Laura: Yeah.
Renee: You don't have somewhat a villain.
Laura: Yeah, of course. Because you don't have to cheat on people. You can just be honest. Just edit it.
Speaker C: Yeah.
Laura: Just get it over with. It's easier that way. Uh, five stars.
Renee: Five stars, she says five stars.
Laura: I say five stars.
Laura: Um, I looked at Letterboxd and how many times I've logged it. And this is the 6th time I've logged this film. Oh, wow. Since I've had letterboxed. But so that doesn't count. That since wow. I think it says in there when I started doing Letterbox, I think it was so long time. Yeah, I've been doing letterbox. But yeah, I logged this movie a lot. And I've never changed it.
Renee: It's always been five. Always been five.
Speaker C: Yeah.
Renee: Well, I don't know if you feel this way, but I love it when because I haven't always been as disciplined with my letterbox. But when I go to watch a movie I've watched before and it's already in there, I've already rated it, I'm like, good. I don't have to think about rating it this time. That's me anyways. Because every time I'm like, I overthink it and end up giving.
Laura: Everything A. Also, I've also had Letterbox so long that Ryan was trying to talk to me about, um, I think it was Mission Impossible Fallout. And he was telling me about it. Oh, it's so good. And Henry Cavill does that m machine gun arm thing. And I'm like, okay, yeah, I'm sure it's fine. And, you know, I love action movies. Like, I love Fast and Furious. I love any type of big explosions and anything The Rock is in, or Jason Statham. Um, but he looked at my letterbox and he goes, you rated Mission Impossible Fallout one star. And it was like, way before we met. I don't know when I saw it. And I was like, I guess I hated it. I don't know what to say to you. The me at the time hated that movie. Yeah, I could watch it again. I don't mind. I've totally forgot it. You see so many movies. It's so fresh when you watch them again.
Speaker C: Yeah.
Renee: I mean, you rate it how you feel in that moment, which could be, like, where you saw it, who you saw it with, if you were feeling sick that day or not feeling sick that day.
Speaker C: Yeah.
Laura: If you saw it at home, you saw it. The movies, totally different experiences. The audience can make a huge impact.
Renee: Like when we saw Megan. Oh, my gosh, Megan.
Laura: Uh, that would have been a lot worse if we didn't have that beautiful audience.
Renee: No, that movie was hilarious and so good. And everyone in our theater was in.
Laura: Love with was reading I'm going to wrap this up right now. But I was reading that kind of the gay audience, like, the LGBTQ plus audience loves Megan.
Speaker C: Yes.
Laura: And they've really taken hold of that film and that character.
Renee: Well, that's why, uh, when we were talking about bros earlier, and I heard it was like, it's a gay movie made for straight people. And then they said Megan was just made for.
Laura: Gay people. What did they say? She's. The they's and the gays.
Renee: Yeah, she's, they'es and gays.
Speaker C: Yeah. Lovely.
Renee: I'm glad to be part of all right. So it's good to be a she. It is good to be happy.
Laura: Galentine's day, Laura.
Renee: Galentine's day. Renee, I love you.
Laura: I love you, bitch. Thank you for, uh, trying out this experiment with me today. And, uh yeah, thank you. And happy February. I don't know.
Speaker C: Great.
Laura: Coming to you from the Kapula suite at the Turtle Bay hotel in Hawaii.
Renee: I've been Laura and I've been Renee.
Speaker C: Aloha, bitches.
Laura: Oh, my gosh. Yes. Aloha. And, uh, we'll see you.