In the spirit of JACKASS releasing a supplementary feature film to accompany the mainline entry as a .5 we've done the exact same. Enjoy Jackass: The Movie - FOREVER.5!
In the spirit of JACKASS releasing a supplementary feature film to accompany the mainline entry as a .5 we've done the exact same. We recorded with Josh for over 2 and half hours so here's the stuff that just couldn't make the cut. Tales and musings from the bottom of the porta potty cutting room floor.
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All right, guys, so this is something that we haven't done before, but kind of keeping in the spirit of the whole Jackass thing and releasing all the bits that you wouldn't see in the movie. We're now releasing all the bits that we couldn't put into our main episode, a .5 if you will. So, uh, sit back, enjoy further musings from myself, Laura, and our guest, Josh.
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Um, pretentious Charlie Hoffman.
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Oh, synaptic, New York. Absolutely.
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Sykes Jones did that one, too.
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No, he has no self control.
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But Joshua is the absolute opposite. I did this in Europe.
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Yeah.
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Uh, but I've not liked anything else.
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You did that one at Uncomfortable Brunch.
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Yeah.
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And I missed it, but that's because I don't like that movie.
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Yeah.
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I said a long time ago that even when it was when I was doing a Comfortable brunch by myself, um, and by myself, I mean programming it by myself. I always maintain this idea that I didn't want it to ever be the Josh Martin Film Festival. Of course, uh, people have been brought on to help with programming. Katie Whitaker has been on board for almost five years now. And then a, uh, newer addition is a, uh, staff member at MCN and the Ford Fund Festival, Lorraine Sovereign. And that was something that she really wanted. And I had to bite my fucking tongue because I've said for years that, no, it's not me running the show. And so we did it. And I've, uh, been pretty open that it's not my favorite in the world. But we have shown it.
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Yeah.
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I'm not going to say it doesn't have merit, but this is what I meant by going off on tangents have nothing to do with what we're actually talking about. For some reason. We're talking about Charlie Hoffman now, in my disdain for, uh, Mexico, New York.
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Yes. Because we brought Spike. He's a very likable. Fuck him. He's so talented. With Big Brother, specifically, they had made what basically becomes the inception of Jackass is there are four different little skate videos that they put out. Uh, and because they were obviously pushing the boundaries of Big Brother or Jackass. Big, uh, Brother.
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Okay.
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Yeah. So you've got shit number two, boob and crap. Those are the same videos. And you're looking at, like your pranky, stunt based shenanigans. That's effectively the inception of what Jackass becomes.
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You've probably seen Jackass so like, it's sketches. Well, no, it's not even sketches.
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It's not even sketches.
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Pranks and stunts and skateboarding.
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And there is an evolution to that that's pretty abrupt between three and four. And I think a lot of it has to do with their age, but also their, uh, notoriety. There's not a whole lot of man on the street, uh, in this new one. Uh, I just don't think that they could do it in the same way.
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Which was the one where they go and rent that do the rental car crash up Derby.
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That's the first sketch in the first one. Not the very first sketch, but it's close to the first.
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It's pretty much like almost the opening of the movie that sketch.
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It was even back then, they were still so popular from the show that doing those kind of pranks was tough.
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And I know that a lot of it too, is between the first and second. And, um, this was to get around. Sorry. Um, what are they called? Photo releases. Photo releases. The first was shot. A lot of it was shot in Japan. The second was a lot of it shot in India.
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Okay.
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And that was specific to why, but I'm sure that helped as well, to a certain degree, uh, because we white people all look the same. I get it. That's something that I noticed in the first two specifically, which I can't say with any authority that it was the releases. But I suspect that probably because there are a lot of public on the street shots that faces were not blurred. No, very sincerely doubt that they had some PA run around getting releases signed or having big signs up that everyone's actually paying attention to. No foreign crew.
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Yes. I don't know what the laws are like overseas and things, but at least here and in the UK, you can get away with it if you're in public, as long as you have permission to be there. You don't have to get releases from the general public. You don't, obviously, when you're releasing a film and things like that, you want to try and get as many as you can because you don't want some random stranger just walking around in your film and they're like, There I am. Give me money.
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So when does it come a point where you need releases? Then tell me the laws.
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Well, if they're like, the victim of a prank.
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I suppose specific to this and where the line on that is pretty Gray, because if you think about the party boy scenes where he's running around this electronic store, everybody's kind of a victim, but not really. But, uh, the scene doesn't work without them. Yes, I would say that's probably where the line is for something, uh, gorilla, uh, style documentary filmmaking, which, uh, really are they're documentary films in a really juvenile way?
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Um.
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I've spoken to them for some reason. Uh, or another. People think that I have some sort of academic authority, which is not true at all when it comes to film. I love this stuff, but. Jesus. But I've actually spoken to documentary film classes, and I always maintain the Jackass too. Uh, is the best documentary ever made.
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Oh, my God.
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And Manuka is a north. Fuck off. This is actually more sincere and more honest than a lot of those, uh, that we teach in school.
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Yeah, okay.
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Um, I would take a class on this.
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I just casually mention it because kids don't know what to fucking do with that. I think that's really funny.
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Yeah.
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Especially when obviously the listeners can't see me. I'm a little bit white trash in some, uh, ways, and so they don't really expect, uh, to see me speaking in any kind of, again, authoritative way about cinema.
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I think it's the glasses.
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The glasses. Is that what makes it better or worse?
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I think glasses immediately makes you look smart.
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Okay, see, they're Woody Allen glasses. I just figured they look like a predator.
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Oh, my God.
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They're not high school classes. It's College. It's fine.
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All right.
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Yeah.
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Everyone's of age, watch out. Yeah, here we go.
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Um.
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Except for my office. You're fucking hired.
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It's hard. Sometimes I can't think on my feet, but I think that's a good one.
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Yeah, it's really good.
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Watch out. Jackass about. Watch anyone who knows anyone from the UK. That's the Beatles about theme Shin. He's also probably one of the Kings of, uh, hidden camera shows as well.
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That's true.
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Jeremy Beetle. I didn't even know if we'd ever fucking bring them up. I don't know if there's a hidden camera. Uh, God, in the US, certainly in the UK, it's Jeremy Beetle. And you'd recognize Jeremy Beetle for his very acute and specific look and also having one tiny hand. He's a star. He's a star. Yeah. There's usually a few things that bring up from time to time. One of them is Bullseye with Jimbo, and the other thing is Beatles about or You've Been Framed with Jeremy Beadle.
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Yeah, we have watched those. They're on YouTube.
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They're fucking awesome.
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I don't know about hidden camera shows. I only care about Jackass.
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Okay, well, in the States. Yeah, in the States. I'm going to say it's nothing new when Jackass came around.
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No, but they have a chemistry and a bond and a friendship.
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That's true. Jeremy Beadle did it all on his own. He didn't have any friends.
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He's a lonely guy. Yeah, okay.
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He was scary.
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Well, um, I think the most fun that I participated in, but I was not the victim of by any stretch. My good friend, uh, Steven McKenzie, who still. He's a filmmaker now, actually, um, he was something else when we were kids. He was definitely least likely to succeed. He was delightful. Everyone loves Stephen, but he was the laziest son of a bitch I've ever met. But he somehow got a shit together. And he's now just like this amazing, hard working person who is also, as a part of natural understanding of light. He's just a really great cinematographer. Who would have thought? But, uh, he suggested that he stand, uh, outside of the movie theater he worked at and that we get on the roof, which is probably about 30ft up, I would say roughly. There was a ladder, um, that was, like, attached to the wall in the maintenance room that we had to climb up. So one person climbed up with a rope. The rope got tied to a bucket, like a, uh, five or ten gallon bucket of ice. And we dumped it from the roof onto him. And we recorded all this. And he didn't really put together that. That would be like having ten gallons of rocks dumped on you. He did not feel good after that. It was all his suggestion too. All of us were like, that seems like a bad idea, Steven, but no, it's going to be fucking hilarious, all right? It's going to be fucking hilarious. I don't disagree with that.
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Yeah, that reminds me of story. I jumped off the primary school roof. Yeah, I think the gap was about seven or 8ft, but the fall was at least 20 ft. So if you didn't hit the gap, then you were falling 20ft to the ground. And I did that, like, four or five times.
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You hit it every time?
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Well, we used to go to the school after hours. We used to skate. That's the main thing. I used to skate. So we would go in there and then, for all intents and purposes, be like, and just jump off that roof. I don't know about anybody else, but when I was growing up, I was like, I have no future, so I'm just going to fucking jump off things and do all sorts of crazy shit and draw stuff. Think of a fuck until I found film. And basically I'm in the same position, just slightly older.
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Have either of you ever worked for a movie theater, especially as a projectionist?
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I worked at the Cine World in Glasgow for about three months.
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Okay?
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And I, um, think I was there for the annual Bollywood festival there. And they warned us. They were like, look, people are going to get rowdy. It's going to get crazy. And it's like they're four hour long films. So just be prepared for the fact if you see all that stuff, just leave them alone, because that's normal. But no, um, I remember it's a lie. It's a lie that if you work at a movie theater, you're able to watch the movies and have zero issues with it whatsoever. You don't get to see the movies. You don't get to see the movies at all.
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We probably could get in after hours.
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After hours. We always did it after hours, but we were bad. We were always getting in trouble for various things. One thing that we did not get, the reason I bring this up is because in a very jackassy sort of way. Another thing that involved, um, the roof of that theater. Um, this was back in the 35 millimeter days, and so there was no digital, uh, projection. Well, when replacing a bulb in one of those 35 millimeter projectors, you have to do it from the front. So the way the bulb, um, fits in, you can't do it from the side. Really. Your hand just hasn't been that way. So you have to wear this protective face covering that was not dissimilar to, like a Welder's mask. It wasn't darkened like that, but it was that cut and then a lead vest. It was, um, very unlikely, but it was possible that if it blew, it wouldn't kill you, but it would be kind of like taking a buck shot. Like, it wouldn't feel like you would be fucked up slightly.
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Meming.
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Uh, well, so we saved those when we switched them out for a year. We saved them and then took them onto the roof in the same way in a bucket with a rope, and then threw them into the dumpster. That was a good 40 50ft away or something like that. And they were grenades, essentially. We were not smart. Yeah.
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You're indestructible.
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Yeah.
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Indestructibility soon kind of evaporates as you get further and further into your 20s until you hit 30. Then you're like, no, I'm as fragile as fucking glass.
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Yeah.
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I mean, just like your sensibilities and just your. As a parent. No, it's everything like, your brain just starts to fucking melt.
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I've always wanted to work at a movie theater, always, and I never could, and I always applied, and they wouldn't take me, and I don't know why.
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I don't get it. It's not a claim to anything.
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Oh, I totally disagree. My experience was amazing. I don't have friends from high school, but I still have friends from that fucking theater.
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That's adorable.
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Uh, filmmaker friend. I mean, who would have thought? But, yeah. No, I see. There's a friend of mine that I made there, and again, this was well over 20 years ago now, and he's got two children and a wife, and I go and visit him, and I'm Uncle Josh, and it's very bizarre.
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Wow.
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But it also wasn't a corporate theater. I'm sorry. It was an AMC eight screen box theater that had closed down because of the megaplexes and then just kept switching hands. These investors thinking that it was a good idea. And so we'd be on hiatus for, like, a week or two every year and a half. Okay, well, it closed down, and then a new investor would come in and reopen it, but they hire us all back. So it's just like this ragtag group of idiots.
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Yeah. Bear the, uh, devil, you know, in that situation. Yeah, I know. I think. Yeah, because it was a multiplex. My mate worked for the Cameo that was down the road for me, and his is the experience that it should be where it is quite lazy, and you get to watch films and you feel like the atmosphere is nice and stuff as opposed to, like, you're on a schedule looking after six or seven screens on the floor, because this was a tiered cinema.
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Okay?
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So there was, like, six or seven screens on a floor, and it was like four floors. They were like, yeah, you need to make sure you're doing it. I remember I chucked out three crazy glasswegian kids who bought, um, light up sticks, and they'd, um, gotten some guns in there. Not real guns, though.
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Not in your theater. Holy shit. That's, like, in America.
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And they were shooting stuff from the back row into people who were in their seats. I was just like, Take your Shing of the fuck out.
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Wow, man. The closest I got was working at a video store, and I worked for a few video stores, and that was maybe the best job I ever had was working at Hollywood Video for, like, five years in South Florida. And, um, then I worked at the Hollywood Video that closed down in Winter Park, Florida. And then when that closed down, I worked at Blockbuster for a month. Or maybe it was like a little more than a couple of months, but I fucking hated Blockbuster.
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Yeah, I worked for Blockbuster for a couple of months and hated it.
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Fucking sucked. Blockbuster was the fucking worst. It really was. Hollywood Video was amazing.
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I hate the nostalgia, um, for Blockbusters these days, by the way. It was their own undoing. They fucking killed the mom and pops, and now we want to feel bad because Netflix killed them. Fuck off.
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Yeah. And I don't have a nostalgia for Blockbuster. It's more of a nostalgia. Like, I fucking miss going to the, uh, video store. Oh, my God. I miss it so much. I loved working at the video store. I love being able to recommend movies to people and people would trust you because. Yeah, you're goddamn right. I've seen every fucking movie five times. I know exactly where it is. I know the covers of movies better than I know the actual film. I know what every movie cover looks like from 2005 and earlier. After that, I didn't really work there after that because they were all gone. They were all gone. But, yeah, it was amazing. I loved it. I love being the manager. I'd buy pizza for everybody on Friday nights. We work until midnight. There was a liquor store next door. We'd make drinks. We'd be getting drunk, eating pizza, watching Ninja Turtles.
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Fuck, yeah.
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We'd watch all the Ninja Turtles movies, and it'll be like, almost a whole shift.
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Even the third one.
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Especially the third one.
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Wasn'T really the third one. All right.
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Turtles sometimes. What was it called?
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No, it was a video game. Uh, it was just TMNT three. That's all it was called. No, that's fine. Well, that's where my argument for everything is. Art breaks down is that third term change between Ninja, uh, turtles, maybe that's where I'm like, oh, no, wait, hold on.
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We'd already had quite a few whiskies by that point and eating tons of pizza. So we didn't care about the third one.
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Yes, that's fine.
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I loved it. You had all the TVs and then you could just turn up. I remember working with a friend, uh, Carolina, uh, and I hired her there. I have a video. Just we could, like, fuck around and we would just put on weird movies and listen to Pink Floyd albums.
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Yeah, that doesn't sound too bad. I don't have any sort of, like, working stories like that. Everything was with a fucking corporate fucking bullshit.
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We had no managers. I was the manager.
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I know. It's just been a Press. Everyone has really nice work stories and work friends. I'm just like, Fuck.
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I just hired my friend.
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Uh, yeah, that's the way to go.
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All right. Okay. So that Jackass the movie is your favorite out of all four. And it's funny that you're saying that, and it makes sense if you're saying you want it to be, like, kind of dirty. What did you say the roughness Jackass Forever is? Not at all. There's no blurriness. Everything is clean. Everything is focused. Everything's.
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Like, all of that forecasts and even the drone shots of which they utilize the drones really well and forever. I usually out of me when it's like, we get it. You have a low budget and you're just going to fucking milk the rental that you got, whether it speaks to the story or not. But there's no story. So I'm all for how many great drone shots there are. And Jackass Forever, uh.
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I just like a good old dirty fucking videotape camera. Like, I still have one of them. I love.
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Those.
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That's the thing. I don't know if it's the same with you or with you, but I grew up with using those cameras.
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Oh, yeah.
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Like the whole digital age when all that shit started coming in. I'm just like something's being lost here.
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Yeah. I used to shoot on VHSC. Uh, yeah, I had a VHSC camera.
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Were they a, uh, little.
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Yeah. And then you can put the adapter in the big rear.
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Yes. I didn't know what that was called. I'm like, that's what I used.
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Yes. The only short of mine that still exists out in the ether somewhere. Shit. It was shot on VHSC. Uh, and we edited that motherfucker on VCRs at first. We did eventually clean it up because we actually found that we actually liked. This was the only project that I have ever done that I liked. And we did digitize all of, uh, it and cut it together in a pirated copy of Adobe Premiere. This was in 2002, so super early version. I don't know how we ran it on our fucking computers because that way we were able to put in transitions and make the soundtrack a little smoother and things like that because we did include a lot of really ridiculous music.
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I did like, um, a foundation course in film when I first left school because I barely went to school and didn't know what to do with my life until my stepmother at the time just threw something in front of me and says, there's a fucking course there. Why don't you just go and do it? I was like, Right, okay, fine. So we were shooting on mini DV tapes and to try and maintain the quality because we were doing it between two VCRs. We used SCHHS, okay? And those tapes only came in 30 minutes sessions. So you couldn't shoot too much. So either you could drop the money on an SCS tape, which I think at the time was like £10 for 130 minutes tape to try and keep the quality a little bit higher because obviously the generational quality from the DV tape to that was like fucking garbage. But yeah, I remember, um, doing that.
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I think that's what I used when I was in high school was the mini DV tapes because I was in like the television program course at school. And so we would, um, do an end of week show that we would put on. And so my group, we would always do like the very ending show and we could do whatever we wanted. So it's usually me being like a total idiot, dressed like Johnny Knoxville, obviously, and running around and, um, barging into classrooms and singing. I like big butts and stuff. Um, like that those exist because all of the people in my group are like younger than me. They were juniors and I was a senior and so I didn't give a shit. I didn't have to be cool, I didn't have to do anything. I'm like graduating. So it's just acting like an idiot. Yeah. But, um, the point of that. Okay, uh, was that we would edit those on those like, little mini DVD tapes or whatever. Computers. I don't even know how I did it. Yeah, no idea, because it was very awkward.
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Oh, yeah, no, I remember because we were meant to edit on those VHS things, but we cheated and we got ourselves like a computer somewhere and we just fucking did it on the computer instead of folk were like, no, you didn't do it on the VHS thing. I was like, well.
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It was like, on that and it was like, connected somehow to the computer as the monitor. I don't know how it works.
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Yes, without VHSC, I remember we actually sprung for my buddy Jason. He and I made the movie together and directed it, the whole thing. We sprung for a new video card that had an RCA input.
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Wow. Okay.
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I can actually plug a BCR into his desktop. And that was how we did it. It was ridiculous. I remember being kind of expensive for us. Again, we're, um, 16. Yeah, I was 16. He was 18.
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Yeah.
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So weird. Yeah. I wonder what the insurance companies, if there was any anything where they had to do certain, uh, things last in the way that they have insurance policies on super old directors. I'm thinking, like Prairie, uh, Home Companion when Paul Thomas Anderson was a backup because Robert Altman was, uh, so fucking old. They were going to die. Maybe they have some version. I mean, that's speculation. I have no idea.
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But that's definitely 100% true. I don't know if he dies. He died during the editing, I think.
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Yeah, no, it's true. But, yeah, I, um, was just drawing the comparison that the money men probably have some sort of say in what order they do these crazy stunts in case. What if one of them fucking dies?
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Yeah.
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Which that's pretty cynical, but probably a reality on some level with 50 year old men going into a ring with a Bull.
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We watched all of the making of that were available to us, like, for one to three. And Trip Taylor said it at least two or three times, at least once or twice during each of the documentaries where it's just like, yeah, there's a strong possibility one of them might die because there's that bit in three where Knoxville is on that rocket, like that big red rocket, and the fucking thing explodes from side to side. And what they realize is that that giant metal bar that was about two foot long, if it was, say, four inches, a little bit higher up, it would have just went right through his chest and he would have been killed immediately. So if anyone's not seen one to three, which they will, we're going to cover their Dick moments.
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Yeah, we'll get into that.
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We don't need to get too far into those in Jackson 3D when they did the Ram Jam.
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Do you remember that?
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The one thing I will say is the bits that Laura loves are the most innocent parts. So when it comes to people getting scared, and when it comes to people maybe being attacked by an animal, let's say, like a Ram or something, but not a Bull, because the Bull will fucking kill you. But when it's an animal that looks like it's a bit aggravated by your presence. I've never seen her in such a fit of aesthetics. Then it was like Steve was stuck on the fence, Ryan Buns on the ground.
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And he's just getting hit. Basil trying to blow that Tuba, and he's just like, oh, I guess Rams don't like music. His jeans are stuck and everyone's like, Steve will help. And he's like, I'm trying, I'm trying and dunk on the ground. Just kidding.
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Try to trumpet Comet with your trumpet noise.
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Oh, my God, I love it so much. It's so funny.
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There seems to be a little bit of ownership over specifically, uh, is it the second one that ends with, uh, Aaron dressing up as a terrorist? I didn't even fucking come up with this one. Why did I agree to do it?
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So, yeah, we saw Jackass Forever today.
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And it was Ryan and my first time.
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It was our first time there. And I guess we'll try and fill in some of the gap, but they're bringing in new blood into this because there's no band marchera. Ryan Dunn has unfortunately passed away. I don't know who else is, um, missing from the cast. No one else is missing. Obviously, there's a handful of new individuals who joined it, and obviously I've got no issue. Like Eric Andre. I think whenever he shows up, everything's a good time.
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Yeah, that seemed like they kind of understood that, too. Like, he wasn't part of the crew by any was just hanging out.
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And for anyone who's not seen Action Point and who's not seen A Bad Trip, Bad Trips available on Netflix, it's well worth watching. It's fucking funny. And Action Point is probably a little lesser than See Bad Trip, but it's still well worth watching because you're watching Johnny Knocksville.
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Yeah.
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It's only with Jackass Forever. This is where we get to see there's a woman in the group now.
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Oh, my God.
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Who's doing fucking stunts and doing fucked up things. There is a bit more of a diversity within the cast because, let's be honest, for the most part.
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It'S white dudes.
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It's all white dudes doing fucking crazy things to each other.
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It's been all white dudes since day one, right?
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Yeah.
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And it hasn't changed until this one. But, I mean, you have an intense gap in time between all those and all those windows.
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Jackass three. It's like 2010.
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Yeah.
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So it's a long time.
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Yeah, such a long time. And, yeah, of course, you have to get younger people in.
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Yeah, you have. It wouldn't have been an entertaining movie to watch 90 minutes of these men who are clearly too old to be doing these horrible things.
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Yeah.
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They did it successfully.
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But I think so, too. But it's still weird for me to see these guys. I'm like, who the fuck is this guy? Had you known who these people were before? Did you know who they were?
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I'd never heard of them.
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I'd never seen their face.
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I recognized a couple when I went to the screening on opening, um, night or the night before opening night. The Thursday night screening. There was a little ten minute blurb in the, uh, front of the film. Uh, that, uh, introduced those nuke people. It seemed that it was Knoxville and Tremaine had found them through YouTube and Instagram and various avenues like that. And all of the old members of the, uh, group all said we were not into this at all. We did not want these kids. We didn't want to even fuck around with it. And they said after a couple of hours, they're like, oh, yeah, no, these are us. Everybody belongs here.
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Uh, which.
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Maybe it's bullshit, maybe it's not. But it seemed like it was a pretty calculated, um, effort because they're just old. I think it worked.
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That poor man. I wrote that on my poor Erin.
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Yeah. He gets fucked, uh, up.
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He does his poor balls. Oh, my, uh.
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God. Yeah.
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Oh, God, that was awful. Uh.
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It'S maybe down to unwillingness just to kind of do certain things, obviously at their ages now.
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Well, the beginning of the film, I was like, uh, it took a good 20 minutes or so, and I didn't think I saw them do anything. I didn't see really Knoxville or Aaron or Stevo do much. They were just kind of standing around watching these guys, like the ramp body, ramp things, which is hilarious, but they were just there.
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Yeah.
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And I go, oh, no. Is that what this is going to be? Is it just going to be these guys perpetuating these stunts for these younger guys and then laughing at them or punching in the back of the head or something doing a Rocky?
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Because that's one of the main. Probably one of the most important subtractions, uh, from the group is obviously the lack of Bamargera. As much as, um. He's still, uh, around as much as he's obviously having his problems, but he was involved in the filming to a point. And he is in the movie, but we don't see much of them. Basically, he's like a background player.
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They barely even mention they borrow them. It was in that when they, um, did the marching band.
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Yeah.
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Which was very funny. And they all got very hurt.
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Ironically, the simplest of stunts ended up fucking them all up.
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I don't know. This is probably not a real popular opinion, but watching all four of them together, like I just recently have, I didn't really feel a loss in the fourth one with Pam not being there. I always felt like he was kind of the pussy, uh, of the group that was just. He was a whiner. And I don't know, he seemed like the most of a punching bag who made that his own label.
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Right.
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I never really cared for his bits all that much. I mean, I'm not happy that he's having drug issues and that's the reason that he's gone.
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I would say with the absence of Bam and the obvious absence of Ryan done, because they come as like a double act. Let's put it that way. We also don't get filled.
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That's a huge loss.
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Yeah. Fill in April. We don't get them in this movie.
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And I feel like that's because I feel that loss on the new one.
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I really loved Bam. I really, really did my really first introduction to all of this stuff. And I feel like it was even before, uh, Jackass was CKY.
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Yeah.
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Because I worked at a skate shop. I was trying to find the name of it before we started recording with SFX in South Florida, which was indoor was my very first job, I think.
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Okay.
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My second job after the pizza place, but I worked there. I was the only girl working, um, at the skate shop and this indoor skate park. And it was kind of this underground thing. Oh, have you seen CKY? Have you seen CKY? And they're like, oh, she's the girl. She won't like it. I'm like, I'm the only girl working in this skate park, dude. I'm cool. And so these tapes, these VHS tapes would go around and these bootleg tapes of CKY. And I remember watching those and I loved it. I loved it. I thought it was the funniest thing in the world. I still remember line for line some of the things from the CKY videos. But yeah, I really, um, liked Bam. But you can definitely see and it goes throughout all of the Jackass show and the movies that he always tends to have his own separate thing going. Like, with his crew, you get them together and they would do stuff together. But then when you would see these separate stunts, he would be doing things with his own dudes. And like the East Coast Boys and the West Coast boys, I noticed that at least where they'd be off in Westchester doing some shit with Phil in April and Johnny Knoxville and the rest of the guys wouldn't be there to be there with Ryan and whoever. Okay. He's got troubles.
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Yeah, that would appear self evident. Yeah. There is a kind of prevalence of them leaning a little bit, maybe too hard on the new folk, certainly, since we don't have much of an introduction to them and their personalities and stuff like that. Because certainly when we do come into the movie the first time with the Jackass crew, we've gotten to know them over the course of several different episodes. So I feel like the shoes themselves are maybe a little bit too big to fill.
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Oh, yeah. They could never handle it on their own.
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No, I don't think so. And the personalities. Yeah, I think that's the main thing.
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I don't know. They're just there to please the boys, and I'm sure that's what they're doing.
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That's the thing. They're either suitable to take the title from Who's Still There, or they're effectively just imitators who are inspired by the fact that these are things that they saw when they were younger. I think some of them are funny, but at the same time, I'm like, who did you think was Funny?
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Which guy, you know, who was annoying to me.
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Poopsie how about Poopsie was pretty funny.
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Guess who I thought was annoying? Poopsie what do you think about Poopsie?
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I've known a lot of guys like Poopsie in my life. Um, and there's something endearing, uh, about it, maybe.
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I don't know.
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I liked Zach and Rachel, though. I think that they were both strong. We, uh, didn't get to see any of them. None of the stunts were claimed by them to have, like, we came up with this, but you got that feeling to the other movies of who came up with what along the way. Clearly they've all been kind of workshop through the group, but I thought that the new girl, Rachel, uh, was game for some fucked up stuff. And there was a kind of a solid MeToo joke in there that was funny. When she's getting the Scorpion lip Botox and it falls onto her, uh, breasts and she's like, they're offering.
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They're offering.
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She's like, not in 2021. If I need consent for that shit, I consent. That's a solid joke. She's funny, actually. She's a comedian. That's her background is stand up.
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Okay, got you.
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Yeah. Which I can see that. I think that I had a certain amount of benefit to watching that little pre show deal that was on opening night that probably should have been there for everybody because it was just everybody sitting in a room talking about why they're all there. Yeah. It gave a little bit of context that made. I appreciated it. Because what you're saying about not knowing who these people are watching it this time around, totally. I would have been really lost with, who the fuck are these people? Why are they here?
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Why are these guys hanging out with the boys?
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Yeah, I guess, like, kind of our queer attachment to the series, just in general, kind of made us feel like they were imposters.
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As opposed to, I've known them longer than you have a child. Yeah. These little kids.
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Why did you get the opportunity to shut yourself shot out of a fucking Cannon or go down a loop slightly?
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There was one in that opening bit that I saw that you didn't was really great with Dave England saying to Poopsie like, I was fucking defensive as shit. Like, Is he the new shit guy? Fuck that, I'm the shit guy here.
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Which I was so happy about.
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Did we get a Lance Bangs vomit scene in this new one? Uh, that's right. Yeah.
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It happened at least three times where you almost start fucking vomiting and his mask every time Lance Bangs vomits.
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It was funny. I remember very vividly when the third came out. I saw it in, uh, theaters in 3D opening weekend while I was working for this arthouse theater that I now have uncovered brunch at. And I was working. I don't even remember what my, um, position was exactly, but it was some admin position. I think it was. And so I was at the admin Monday morning meetings where the head of every Department meets up and we just have kind of a State of the Union. What happened last week, box office wise, where are we moving forward, blah, blah, blah. Well, the programming director there, he's been there since 19, uh, 91, I believe he is a caricature of, uh, a and I say this lovingly, but I've told him, uh, this before, whatever you have in your head of a 64 year old non practicing atheist Jew who, uh, is a programming director for a film festival and arthouse theater. Okay, that's him. I'm convinced that he doesn't like anyone. It's just levels of tolerance. Okay. And I've gotten over the years, I'm a very high level of tolerance for him. So much so that I would venture to say we're friends.
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All right.
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You might not dare see it to his face, though.
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No. Just in case you don't know. But we would bullshit about the movies that we watched over the weekend, um, not theater related to the theater we worked with. Just what do we watch? And I told him I went to see Jackass 3D and he starts laughing, uh, in a kind of a condescending way, because he hadn't seen any of them and he wasn't familiar with it, really. He knew of its existence in pop culture, but he had never seen it. He's like, really? And 3D to the 3D make it better. That was his first and only question. And my response at 25 years old was, I don't know, did Dildo's being shot out of a potato Cannon? Do you think they're better than 3D? Because I do. And he just sort of nodded approvingly. And the side story to that is that the Enzyme showed the first Jackass for classics last year, uh, and I got to sit at the table with him watching it any Jackass movie for the first time. And he was like, cry, laughing so hard, this grown ass grumpy man just losing his shit over the most immature thing. Imagine it was so good.
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Well, yeah. Is Jackass Three better with the 3D in it?
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I haven't watched it in 3D. You did recently?
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Sort of, yeah, I watched the blue and red version, like, DVD version, which is that it just gives you a headache. The Gimmick is not worth it in that way. Uh, but I will say that seeing it twelve years ago in theaters with real Dee, whatever the fuck, selling a more tired version of what we'd already seen. A more fun experience.
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Yeah, I think so.
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I enjoyed, uh, it more than I think that I would have been. Just 2D.
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Yeah, I would agree. Uh, is Jackass 3D a better 3D movie than Jaw's 3D?
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Wow. I like it more.
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Almost the exact same traits that they're doing where it's just kind of like just bring shit closer to the screen have things coming out towards you as opposed to anything kind of going from side to side. Just make sure it's all coming towards you, because obviously it's a cinematic trick that's been played since the dawn of cinema in the late 1800.
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It's the train, right?
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Uh.
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It'S a train or it's a giant dildo coming towards your face.
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Is Jackass 3D better than Jaws 3D? Yes.
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You think so?
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It's certainly more fun.
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Yeah, it's definitely more fun. It's funny, though. No, it's just 3D. It's not Jaws the Revenge. Come on, you worked on the right, you should know this.
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We only deal with the Dennis Quad.
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There's a great Michael claim quote about the Revenge. Jaws Revenge, where he said, he says, oh, my God, no, I've never seen it. I'm, uh, sure it's terrible. Um, but I did see the house that it built, and it's quite lovely.
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I don't know if you ever brought that story up about Jaws The Revenge. Certainly not on this podcast anyway. But supposedly there was a die in the water that they were using in the tanks, and it made Michael Caine's hair blue. I think that's pretty funny.
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Yeah, that distinguished man had blue hair. That's funny to me. I mean, I love Michael Caine, but also fuck him in that situation. That's funny. Earn that paycheck.
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I can't believe I got this mixed up. I'm like trying to wrap my head around it right now.
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It's okay if you have a sudden feeling of self loathing, uh, later in the evening.
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That is why a lot of the penises in this in the third one were Bam Marcera pizza, which is awful.
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Yeah. There was one where he's pissing on himself because he was pushing into the jet stream. Fucking gross. But yeah, I don't think peeing on people's okay when they're in consent. Uh.
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I agree.
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Yeah, that seems like that crosses a line, but maybe not.
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It's not in the bath or in the toilet. It's a no from me.
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Yeah, I agree.
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Yes. I'm not saying I'm into that.
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I mean, this is the time, uh, for revelation.
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That's true. Yeah, maybe it's a revelation for me. Maybe I'm figuring something out about myself right now.
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Uh, Josh loves water sports.
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Wow. George Martin loves water sports.
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Try some stuff out in the shower later.
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Maybe do it standing up in the bath, piss on your leg, see how it feels.
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Oh, I'm sure that would feel great. Yeah, it wouldn't feel bad. No. Is the water running also?
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Maybe it depends on what you want to do, baby step.
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But then again, haven't we all peed in the shower?
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Yeah, if you haven't. Deliberately pissed on yourself is a choice.
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Unless I do, like, a weird kind of angle, which you can do.
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Or get a CP.
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You know what? I wish it was one of those that actually worked in real life, in real situations, because I'm often stuck in the woods somewhere, and I really.
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Okay, this is good to hear, because obviously I don't have a use for one. And I've always speculated that can't work. Nobody's ever told me if it has or not. And I apparently don't have good enough friends that would divulge such information to me. I want to know if that actually works.
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Try one in real life. But it seems that you also have to carry it with you. And you also are going to have, like, a pea. You know what I mean? There's pee everywhere.
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Well, it's silicone, so you probably could just rinse it out with some soap and water. But if you're outside in the woods.
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You wouldn't have that. What am I going to have, like a carabiner and have it stuck on my backpack?
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That's your sea water.
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Yeah. With that strong smell of piss coming from your bag.
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I feel like you have a Ziploc tag for it.
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And I want one to also look at.
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Just in case you didn't know what that was, just make sure you put labels.
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And I'm going to pop it in. And I'm going to always have my sheep penis hanging out in my shorts when I'm at work, so I'm walking around.
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That is an excellent idea.
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Excavating with my sheep out.
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All right. Okay.
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Just paying wherever I want.
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Nice.
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There you go.
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Send me some videos.
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Of course I will.
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So I can be like.
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I'll send you boomerangie. Um, if I was born a man, I would have been arrested. I can guarantee you that.
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Yes, you've told me some horrible things in your dreams.
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I have terrible podcast etiquette. I don't know what I'm doing at all. Yeah, I keep going too far.
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Sometimes Josh sits back, too. He's sitting on a sofa. It's defensible.
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It's our fault for not having adequate seating.
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We've sat them on something that's very comfortable, I guess sort of. It's more comfortable. We're leaning forward and things like that. Anyway, I did it slightly during the course of the podcast, and I'm just like, you go a little bit closer and you're, uh, just like.
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I wrote down about the Vomitron, which we had gone through the whole movie without seeing a lot of vomit. And I was super excited. And then they have a segment called Vomitron. I'm like, oh, no.
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Which colored milk.
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Colored milk. Well, yeah, the milk is colored to their T shirts. Uh, so that for whatever reason, you wouldn't see it as much.
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I know that it probably isn't the case, but something about it being flavored, like the candy version of those would make it so much worse. Uh, the yellow being banana, like banana rump flavored milk, or grape, like koolaid flavored milk, which is, uh, something about that. I didn't think about it the first time around watching it today.
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I can't really get into that whole phenomenon, that Nest quick phenomenon. Uh, your fucking milk.
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The only thing I was thinking of when they first introduced that segment was how cold is that milk?
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It can't be cold at all. No, I think that was room temperature milk. Desert temperature.
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Belt, I want to do a lamp.
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Anything that we've learned from alien and he and home was like his head was sat on that desk for that amount of time and the milk was coming out of his mouth. He got incredibly sick because they never refrigerated that milk. They were pouring into his mouth.
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Every taste horrifying
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you.