Wild Things (1998) is the first film of On the BiTTE's 2nd year! Welcome! Enjoy! It's not just for boys!
Wild Things (1998) is a film that we couldn't wait to record. This film has a legacy that precedes itself. The best part is...Ryan had never seen this film. Can you believe it?
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Well, hello there. Welcome to On The Bitte, the podcast that uncovers full frontal male nudity in cinema. My name is Laura, and I am joined by my co host, Ryan.
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Hello. We made it to another year.
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Oh, my god. We did it.
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I mean, we only started last August.
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True.
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So technically we haven't made it a year yet.
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But we've made it through a year.
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We did physically. Physically, I wouldn't say mentally, but physically we have made it through another year.
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And certainly not emotionally.
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No.
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Temporarily.
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Yeah, well, I don't know.
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Existentially.
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Yeah. We don't need to repeat the side of the last two years. It's been total shite.
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Fair.
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Let's just.
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But the shightiness of the last couple of years has propelled us into doing what we love, which is this podcast and talking about movies.
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I mean, I have more than one passion than talking about movies.
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I have nothing else. This is all I have.
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Oh, that's sad.
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It is?
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Yeah. I mean, that's fine. I mean, it's better to have one thing that you absolutely love than be terrible and get zero recognition for at least three things that you do.
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Anyway, I think you're very talented. No one knows your biggest fan.
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Yeah, no one cares. Let's just get into this. Let's do this.
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Well, I don't know if you're ready, but I am ready to talk about the erotic crime thriller Wild Things.
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Is it really an erotic thriller, though?
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Yes. They no joke. Called it a neonoir erotic crime thriller.
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Right. Okay.
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And I didn't write down neonoir because I'm, like, that's stupid. We've done those before, and this certainly isn't that. This is our first Kevin Bacon Naked movie.
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Yeah, he's in a few, actually.
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No, he seems to be a guy that would have done more.
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But only he's, like a big advocate for getting his Dick out and things, even if he's only done two.
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I know, but I'm fine with that. Hey, he's done more than most have.
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That's all right. I think you always have to be a little bit wary of someone who's, like, willing to get their Dick out moments notice.
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Mcgregor.
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Yeah, I'm fine with that.
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Harvey Caitl.
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I'm fine with that Fee. Hey, I'm fine with that fee.
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Hey, take your Dick out.
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He's showing me his penis. I'm into that. Stop the press. Um, okay.
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Kevin Bacon's in this movie as Sergeant Ray Duquette, which is like harkening to some weird swamp Louisiana shit, which this is not based in Louisiana. It's based in South Florida.
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Yeah. Near the Glades.
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Represent the Glades.
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Near the Glad.
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No one ever calls the Everglades the Glades, do they not? I've never heard that. I've been to the Everglades. I've been Allah. Matt Dylan riding in an airboat through the Everglades. I've worked in the Everglades.
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Well, it's customary. It's customary to be an actual Floridian. You have to own a piece of, um, nautical equipment. Oh, do you? His is an airboat. We're yet to get a schooner, but I don't know.
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Yes.
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I'm also scared of the open water, so I have no idea.
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I have a, uh, friend.
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So many beasts and so many patches of water here that it's like, oh, no.
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Yeah. We were walking past the Lake the other day and you said, you think there's alligators in here.
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Yeah.
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And I said, if it's a body of water in Florida, there's definitely alligators in there.
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Well, I like to take photos and I like to take photos of things. And it sometimes find myself in positions of imminent danger, potentially. Certainly more here, less back home. It was unlikely that water Moccasin was going to jump out of a puddle back home and fucking bite me in the throat.
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Fair enough.
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So that's kind of the main thing that I'm thinking about there is the addition of all these reptiles.
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Yeah, I know that a friend of ours has said that to be a true Floridian, you always in the trunk of your car. You have to have extra bathing suits, sunscreen and towels.
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Yeah, we have that already.
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We got our beach pack.
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Mhm.
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We never go to the beach.
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No, we haven't gone to the beach recently. We have gone to the beach before.
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Right.
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So there has been something.
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We have been to the beach.
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Yes. The thing is, we just haven't been. But the beaches are lovely here, so it doesn't really matter. And I see that coming from someone who went to the beach recently and got stung by a fucking jellyfish. So, yeah, there is that.
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Yeah, that's true. There are some other people in this movie. Matt Dillon, please. Sam Lombardo. Nev Campbell is Susie Toller, who, by the way, was 25 when they filmed this movie, which isn't terrible for being an adult playing someone in high school.
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Yeah.
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But, um, Denise Richards, who plays Kelly Van Ryan, was 27, which is so funny because when we were watching it, I'm like, the only person that looks too old to be playing their role is Nev Campbell.
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Is it Nev or is it Neve? I think it's Neve. Is it Neve Campbell?
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You can call her Neve and then it'll be like 50% wrong.
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Nevada.
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Like Nev Campbell.
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Yeah, like it's short for Neville.
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Neville Longbottom.
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Neville Long bottom.
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I'm going to have a hard time calling her Nev. I'm serious.
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Well, then call her Neve then, if you're going to have a hard trouble calling her Nev. Oh, I met Neve.
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Yeah, whatever.
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Yeah. See? You're already having trouble. Fuck, yeah.
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Bill Murray is also in this movie.
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Yeah, he's actually really good in this movie.
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And Theresa Russell, who I recognized from a million things. She's beautiful. Okay, so tell me about the director. Our director is John McNaughton.
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John McNaughton. So John McNaughton, film and TV director. Um, let's just say he is probably most known for being the director and writer co writer with, I think it's Richard Fires, the other writer on this movie for, um, Henry Portrait of a Serial Killer, which is that Michael Rooker low budget, uh, serial killer movie, which I think is amazing. You don't think so?
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What movie was it? I was looking at Neve Campbell, by the way. I'm right. You're wrong.
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Oh, is it Nev?
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Rhymes with Bev. That's what it says.
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Nev likes the Bev.
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Who doesn't? What movie are you talking about? Are you talking about? I'm sorry. Low budget horror movie.
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No. Serial killer movie. Henry.
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Oh, Henry Portrait of a Serial Killer. Sorry. I Dove into the Nev Campbell thing. Yeah, that movie is fucked up. That's another movie where I almost have to physically shut down in order to get through it.
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Yeah. Michael Rooker in the starring role. Um, that film was originally made in 84, but due to the controversy surrounding the movie, it didn't, um, actually get released until 86.
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Wasn't it banned?
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Of course it was banned. Yeah. There's a lot of horrible stuff that happens in that movie, but I think if you can watch it and find it somewhere because, um, that's a film I don't even have a copy of, so I wouldn't mind actually finding a nice, good old Bluray of Henry. Put it in the collection.
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Yeah. Enjoy watching that again on your own. I'm good. One is done.
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It's a good movie, but fine. Everyone's too sensitive these days. So Henry comes out 86, he makes another movie called Sex, Drugs and Rock and Roll. In 91, he makes a film that I've seen or at least seen parts of called The Borrower in 91 as well, which is basically as an alien, uh, life form comes to Earth and tries to fit in with society and with human being. In order to do that, he has to borrow human heads.
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What?
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Yes. And they say they put borrowing quotations because obviously you can't just borrow someone's head.
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Fair. So I like that. I want to watch that.
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It's a good movie. It's a good movie.
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Not to be confused with The Borrowers.
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No, don't get those mixed up and start showing your kids The Borrower because you'll be in for a hard time. You're going to have a bad time. 93 mates, Mad Dog and Glory. That also has Bill Murray in it.
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Yeah.
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And he's also done a bit of TV, so he does personal favorite of mine, Girls in Prison in 94.
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Get out of here.
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I've never seen it before. That sounds like someone's kink. Yeah, I'm trying to remember the thing. It's wrong. I remember seeing it's like Girls in Prison, Women in Prison. Um, but between 94 and 96, you probably remember this. Homicide, Life on the street.
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It was from that other podcast you like.
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What's that?
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That podcast with all the men, the comic book store.
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Tell them, Steve Dave.
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Tell them, Steve Dave. And they did that rap. They did prison rap.
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Yeah. He liked the prison women in Prisons. Yes.
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Yeah, that was very funny. Telling Steve Dave. That's what it was.
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Yeah, that's pretty good. So, yeah, homicide, Life on the street. I think we've all seen at least an episode of that in one way or another.
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I don't know.
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It's kind of like my PD Blue. So in 96, uh, it makes a film called, uh, Normal life in 91 is a TV movie called Firehouse. And then in 98. Oh, no, that's 97. Sorry. In 98, he does Wild Things.
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Finally.
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Yeah, we get there. But certainly when I was looking at John McNaughton, the director is not the first person that comes up.
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Okay.
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The first person that comes up is a fine artist, uh, also by the same name.
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Okay.
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He does paintings.
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Cool.
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And that's it.
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Yes. That's not the McNaughton I'm interested in. I'm interested in this McNaughty. Mcnaughton.
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Did a naughty movie.
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You did. And you know what funny? I thought it was going to be naughtier. I thought it was going to be more erotic because this movie caused such a stir when it came out. It's a sexy thriller. And, you know, I love my sexy thrillers, but again, I was 13 when this film came out. As for you, and there's boobies, everything's wet, and you've got a threesome, which is awesome. And, um, it really came off less sexy this time around. I mean, we've probably seen a lot more erotic things in these past 20 some odd years, I would say.
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I agree with you completely, but I feel like we're now in our thirties. We're relatively desensitized to because we've seen plenty of stuff in our lifetime.
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I still enjoy the things. I still enjoy the sexy thrillers when they come about.
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But this didn't feel there's some tethlation for sure.
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Yeah, it didn't feel as much of, like, pushing the boundaries as I remember it's. Legacy is probably bigger than the actual film itself.
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Yeah, I would say so, because this was Shaw Carr. This was the first time I'd seen this film all the way through.
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Yes. I did not realize that until last night.
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Yes. So I have seen the sex scene probably more times than the film itself. And I'll tell you for why.
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Yeah, tell me why.
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Right, well, no, back home, back in the UK, we like to do like, Top 50 Sexiest Scenes in Movies kind of shut down. So they get all these D list journalists talk about these films and I'm assuming they only show them the scene and they've never seen the film themselves and they just commentate on what they're seeing in the time. Wow, bollocks. Right. So you're looking at it and then you're like, you're like, oh, my God, it's Denise richest tits. Fuck that sort of thing.
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Yeah.
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Like that whole thing. I never understood the context as to why that happens, because obviously you're watching the movie and as the movie begins, you're kind of watching it. You're like, how the fuck did we get to that bit?
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Yeah, absolutely. Twisty turny.
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It's one of those. And I think we're going to be very careful of the fact that I don't think this film is great, but I think experience it for the first time. I think it's a really interesting kind of twisty turny, sort of thriller experience for the first time. It's actually pretty good hour and 50 minutes of what its length is.
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Yeah, for sure.
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It's enjoyable all the way through. So I don't want to spoil any of that stuff for anybody because to be honest, we don't have to fucking talk about it because it's not really pertaining to the plot. I think the kind of way that we'll do it is we'll try and sneak our way through all so that you're not spoiled by it. If you do want to enjoy Wild Things, and certainly if you don't enjoy this one, there's at least three other sequels to Wild Things that you can watch as well.
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These have covers, these sequels. There's Wild Things, too.
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Yeah.
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Wild Things, diamonds in the Rough, which is the third, and then the fourth one, which. Perfect title. Wild Things for some. I remember all of those coming out at least. Sorry.
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The first two, they all look like the cover to Blue Crush.
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Yeah. Well, also, I think that the second one. Sorry, the Diamonds and the Rough one looks like a Fast and Furious knockoff.
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Yeah, it does.
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It really does. And I, uh, remember I was working at Hollywood Video and I remember seeing those on the shelf thinking like, oh, there's some. Because there's always those big title will come out and then you get those shitty knock off movies that come out around the same time and they'll be parked right next to the ones that you want. So when you come in looking for Wild Things or whatever, you've got this one right next to it and then you can mistake it. People did that all the time.
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Yeah, of course.
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They're like, oh, I thought this was Cloverfield and it's something stupid.
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Clover patch.
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Yeah, whatever.
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Yeah.
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But I remember those covers. They're very distinctive. Never saw them.
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No, I never watched them. I didn't make the mistake of picking up the wrong movie. But now I let my, uh, dad do stuff like that, like pick the wrong movies. That's why I watched something I watched, like, eight millimeter when it first came out on video.
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Hell, yeah.
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And I probably wasn't even 14. No, I can't have been by the time, like, whatever age I was back then. Yeah, it was probably preteen.
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I don't remember when eight millimeter came out.
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Yeah, we could. Yeah, actually, maybe we could figure it out and figure out how old it was. But let's put it this way. I think there's one scene in that where there's a nurse. There's a sexy nurse. I say sexy nurse. I mean, she was in a nurse uniform, but she had her boobs exposed. They cut a couple of holes on her top, and she's sticking a vacuum cleaner down a man's ass. Yeah, that's what I remember because it was edgy.
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Well, yes, you got it, like, spot on. It was 99.
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Oh, shit.
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Well, you're so good at that.
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Yeah, pretty much. It influenced me to be a fuck up for most of my life, probably. Yeah. Let's get into that.
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Okay. Let me tell you what this movie is about.
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The meat and potatoes.
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Uh, of the synopsis.
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It's safe. Florida.
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Ready? Okay. When teen socialite Kelly Van Ryan and troubled bad girl Susie Toller accused guidance counselor Sam Lombardo of rape. He suspended by the school, rejected by the town, and fighting to get his life back. One cop suspects conspiracy, but nothing is what it seems.
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Okay.
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I'm fine. Yeah, that's fine.
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Yes.
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Do you want to hear the tagline?
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Do I?
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They're dying to play with you.
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Yeah, I don't understand that.
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Me either.
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Who's, uh, dying to play with you?
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The ladies.
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The ladies. I guess that gets the men in the seats. You know what I mean? Where they're just, like, got this one on one ball. Got this other one on another ball. Two girls, two balls.
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There you go. One for one.
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Yeah, one for one. That's it.
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Caring is caring.
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Simple maths. Yeah. Okay, I got you. Yeah. They're really playing into the sexy all the marketing stuff where they were playing into the sexy stuff because the two girls, um, are, like, just their heads just slightly above the wall and stuff like that. Don't think the poster, uh, is fantastic, but, I mean, you remember it.
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Yes.
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Put it that way. You remember it.
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The opening title card I liked because it was all in the Everglades, not just the Glades. I had the alligator popping up. It looks cool.
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Yes, that stuff looks really nice. I think Jeffrey Kimberly shot this one. Uh, right.
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Yeah.
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I think he's made it look quite nice.
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You know what else he did, right? I wrote down some stuff. You look at my notes?
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Um, no, I can't. Well, I can't see them because they're too small. Because my eyes say it's terrible.
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Jacob's Ladder.
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Oh, yeah, he said that one. Yeah, it's pretty good.
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Beverly Hills Cop, two True Romance. Tony Scott.
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Yes, he's a Tony Scott. Yeah. Uh, he's worked with a lot of those. He might have came from the same crop as the British advertising boom in the 60s and stuff. That's probably why.
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Okay. Yeah, he did a lot of music videos too, but I haven't seen most of them.
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So music videos that he did.
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The only one I wrote down is Beyonce Run the world.
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Okay.
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I remember that video.
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Yeah, he's working. He's getting it done. Okay. Yeah. Because he's like probably the same as, like an Adrian Biddle. Same dude. Adrian Biddle shot, uh, Aliens and, uh, he shot some stuff for Ridley Scott. Tony Scott.
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Uh, honestly, I don't really have that much to say about this movie itself, but there are parts that I really liked and things that I thought were really, uh, funny. We don't know how things are going to occur because the movie is so kind of top securvy and you don't know what direction it's going in. Kevin Bacon said that when he read the script, it was like the biggest piece of trash he'd ever read. But every page had a new surprise.
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Okay.
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I think that obviously comes through when you're watching the movie. But we were watching it last night and you're like, how are they going to get in the three of them?
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How is this going to how is this going to Cart.
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Right. And I thought it was funny because I think both NEF Campbell and Denise Richards were like, not sure how it was going to go and they were nervous. And Nev Campbell has like a strict no nudity clause.
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Oh, really?
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And Denise Richards was like, yeah, it's fine. No problem. I'll definitely take my clothes off.
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Yeah, I guess so.
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Yeah. She's beautiful. Mhm no problems here.
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No, I think it's fine. I think there's a lot of chatter around that time as well where it's like, we go to see Denise Richard's boobs.
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Yeah.
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And she's got boobs.
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Yes, she does.
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She's definitely got some boobs.
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She certainly is a woman.
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There was less chatter about Neve Campbell's boobs because you don't see them. You don't see them nothing. Yeah.
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But they all went and got drunk on, like, margaritas and wine in their trailer before they filmed that scene because Nev Campbell is like, I've never kissed a woman before. What am I going to do?
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Yeah.
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Okay. Well, they had a nice time.
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Yeah. They knew what they were getting themselves into it's in the script.
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That's true. And I think John, um, McNaughton was saying that he's very open about that sort of thing. He's like, if you signed up for it, you knew what it was going to be because it was in the script. I didn't like all of a sudden throw people into a nude scene that's just not how he was transparent.
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It just makes sense. Yeah. There has to be a transparency there, otherwise problems happen.
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I agree.
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Yeah. No, I don't know how much more we can kind of say for it, because certainly as the film begins, we're introduced to the Florida landscape and the Florida Keys, the Everglades.
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Effectively, it's like South Florida, so around Miami and the stuff not that far south.
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No. So it kind of has, like, everyone has a slightly sweaty disposition. But I guess here's my thing. Like, it's Florida, so it's relatively quiet. Uh, it has this feeling of being quite idyllic from the minute it starts, everyone's relatively quite happy and cheerful, seemingly leading their lives. And kind of what we delve further into as the film progresses is a slightly more darker, socialite kind of underbelly to this community. And that's, um, primarily introduced through Denise Richards, who is socialite brat.
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Yes.
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Uh, pretty much.
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Apparently they run the town, which is always so funny in films where they're like, oh, this family runs this down. I'm like, where does that happen? In what world, mhm does that exist?
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Yeah. Because I wouldn't put this in the same vein as, like, in terms of sweatiness. Like the sweatiness factor, because I feel like that's very important for neurotic.
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Yeah. Everything is moist.
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Yeah. Like, there's open shirts. Like, there's a lot of sweat. No one showering. Like, there's no AC running. Everyone's very sweaty. So I wouldn't put it in, say, the same thing as, like, a body heat.
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No. Yeah, um, absolutely. I was going to use body heat is like the top sweat marker. Like a ten out of ten for sweat. This is more like a three people are a lot less sweaty in this movie.
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Yeah. Everyone's very acclimated, and I'm not really 100% sure if I like that.
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Well, there's a thing that they wanted, uh, to show in this film where, like, how you were saying the landscape and everything is very beautiful and a dillic. And they wanted, I guess, that juxtaposition between all of the characters where you have this beautiful landscape, beautiful houses. Everything is really nice and pretty. The school is lovely, but they're trash people. They're like trash human beings in a lovely landscape.
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Yeah.
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All these people are trash.
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Yeah, pretty much.
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Except for Bill Murray.
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Well, everybody who's, uh.
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Also kind of trash.
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Well, actually, no, everyone's motivated by money.
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Yes.
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So the thing is, and this is just kind of the way the story goes is that you've got your head on show and everyone just wants a piece of the pie. That's effectively what it is. Um, yeah. I mean, that is what motivates everybody in this movie. And where the twists and turns, mhm kind of come in, and we just don't want to kind of delve too far into them because they're worth experiencing them yourself is truly, um, between, like, who's going to get this money, right?
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There's no trust between everybody. Where is the money? Can I have the money?
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As they say, there is no loyalty among Steves.
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Indeed, Ryan.
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Yeah, see, I know. Aren't I a writer?
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Clever.
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Yeah. Fucking. Anyway, um, yeah. So Matt Dylan is a guidance teacher, uh, and he's being nice. Yeah, I guess he's like, he's seemingly too nice. The thing is that he's being led on slightly by Denise Richard's character or just.
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Like, hit on constantly.
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Yeah.
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And just sopping up her boobies for no reason.
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Well, her whole agenda is that she's going to bed this dude before the end of senior year.
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Yeah.
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That's pretty much what's going to happen. She's going to fuck him. And she has a bit of a conflict with her mother because her mother's already done that.
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Right? Yeah.
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So obviously he's been doing the rounds.
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Yes. I think he had slept. There was a thing like he slept with all the ladies in town. He's like, trying to get one of the socialite ladies to marry him. And it's just not working out yet.
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No, for whatever reason. But that's the community we're in is that a lot of these people are rich and he's looking for money. So I guess, um, he gets accused of rape. There's this sense of, uh, mystery surrounding this moment where he gets accused of rape.
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Which is so funny. This, um, guy gets accused of rape. Like rape? Yeah, that's rape. I don't mean to say it so many times, but Jesus Christ, it's rape.
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And why are you saying it?
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Because I'm trying to get across the fact that this is, like, absolutely unimaginable, uh, horrific crime. Right.
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Yeah.
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And he's also in a place of power as a guidance counselor at this school, accused by a student, and he's just working. He's still at school. He's still working. And then he doesn't get arrested until someone else comes forward and say, oh, yeah, he raped me too. So basically it takes two apparently it takes two people to accuse someone of rape before they're actually arrested.
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Yeah, I think it's, um, horrible in terms of.
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Like, he's like, oh, no one's in my sailing class anymore. Everyone dropped out of my sailing class. I'm like, yeah, because someone just said that you raped them. Dude, you should be in straight prison.
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Yeah. It's her word against his. But his statements not even taken. There's a lot of very questionable things being done by the South Florida police.
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Right. And doesn't the principal go up to him and say, oh, hey, by the way, you've been accused of rape? He goes, yes, apparently I'm the last person to know. And I'm like, yeah, why?
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Yeah, I don't understand.
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The cop is sniffing around, asking everyone questions except the guy who's actually been accused.
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Yeah.
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A statement needs to be taken. Where were you on this day? Let's look for evidence. Uh, at your house.
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You kind of find out later why? Maybe they've not taken his statement fair, you know what I mean?
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But in terms of, like, when you're trying to get involved in the movie and you're like, why aren't these really important, specific things happening? It's like frustrating.
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Yeah, I guess.
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Uh, so it makes you more involved.
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Yeah, I guess there's some mind boggling stuff kind of going on and you're kind of sucked into the atmosphere. I say all this because it's relatively quite middling. I don't think Wild Things is a particularly great film. Uh, and I kind of feel like it could be a lot darker and it could be a lot sweater, but at the same time.
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Dark shit that happened, like as the credits were rolling, which stick around for that when you watch the film.
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Yeah. I guess if you want to see a breakdown of how it all went down, that's the end credit sequence. The end all end credits.
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Right. For real. To actually tell you how everything happened after the movie ends.
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Old like Wolverine just showing up in a bar is not the end credit sequence that you are looking for here.
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Yeah. Jesus. Like Marvel. Get it together. You want to look for an end credit scene? Just look to Wild Things.
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Yeah. Just go to the mastery that Wild Things is, and then everything will be fine.
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The old full frontal scene.
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Yeah, I think let's just get right into that.
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Okay. This comes in at an hour, 29 minutes and 21 seconds. And as you can imagine, this movie is about an hour 50 right at the end of the movie.
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Pretty much.
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Kevin Bacon.
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Yeah, it's Kevin Bacon.
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Kevin Bacon. And I was also wondering throughout the whole movie because I know Kevin Bacon gets naked in this movie at his very first full frontal movie. And I hadn't seen this movie since I was young, so I couldn't remember how this occurred. Also, you're watching the movie and you have no idea how this can happen until it does. And then it all makes sense. Kind mhm of.
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Yeah. I mean, it takes you down a route. I guess I'm probably the most qualified to talk about it from that perspective because this was the first time seeing it all the way through.
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Okay.
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And I was kind of just like, how the fuck do we get to this point? And then you're like, that's how it happened. I see basically everyone's conspiring against each other and they all end up in the same suit. Effectively, yes. And for whatever reason, Matt Dylan, uh, goes back to his abode and, uh, there's this revisiting of something that happened earlier in the movie where there's dirty footprints leading through his door to a room in his house. And he's like, they're not mine, although this was sand. But these are like dirty, muddy footprints.
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It was super weird because he's obviously on vacation drinking Pina coladas or he's off to the Caribbean or wherever he went after he got all the millions. And yes, the muddy footprints don't make a lick of sense.
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No, absolutely zero.
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Um, sense. Because beautiful white sand.
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Well, the prop guys should have said something or the prop guys shouldn't have been so subservient to just like, yeah, no, that's fine.
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Or give it something else. The door is open when it was closed before. Like, wet footprints from there clothes or something on the ground.
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Like a massive dog shit right at the bottom of the stairs. So he's like, trips.
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Like, Matt Dillon almost trips in it and then realize that someone else already did.
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Already did trip in it. And he's got sandals on. He's got it between his tools. And he's like, no.
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And then he has to go into the shower to wipe off all the filthy poo. And then he realized Bada. Boom, here's Kevin Bacon. Yeah.
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He takes a fucking butcher's knife and he's already ready to just chop his food off because he's had like, this is it. This is the end of days. Like, this isn't going to happen.
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Like that episode of Curb Your Enthusiasm where Larry David steps in the dog poo.
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I'm not joking. I have considered just throwing shoes away after that's happened to me. It does get in the grooves in the crevices because folk are fucking scumbag. They just let their dogs fucking shit everywhere.
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I know it's really bad.
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Don't look after them.
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Just pick up your dog.
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You're above the law. Well, they're not above the law. I've seen you. I know who you are. This is the way it's going to be. I am the law. I have thought about putting little flags in them and stuff like that when we see them in the street.
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And then it will say, like, Is this a piece of shit? No, you're a piece of shit.
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It'd be a flag with a QR code on it. And they would scan the QR code and they'd be like, what's this? And they'd look at it, and then it would just be a video of what, a man in the mask.
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It will automatically, um, put dog poo bags in your Amazon shopping cart.
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You know what it could do? It could do that 90s thing where hackers would do that. Or if there was cops trying to catch a killer and they would switch on a computer and it would just come up and be like, I am watching you. Like, in the big time in impact type. I am watching you. And they'd be like, weird.
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That's right. We're everywhere.
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Yeah, murder is everywhere.
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Dog poo vigilantes.
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Yes. It's disgusting. I don't know why you do it. If you can't pick your dog shit up, you don't deserve to have a dog. It's as simple as that. Anyway, we're going way off track. We're talking.
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He does not step in dog shit. No, but he does step in on Kevin Bacon in the shower.
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He's led into his abode and the shower is running, and he's like, what is this? And it's just Kevin Bacon taking a shower.
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Yeah. Why not? What does he say when he opens the shower door? Kevin Bacon says a thing, and I think you wrote it down.
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Howdy, partner.
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Howdy, partner. Yeah. Oh, cute.
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I love Kevin Bacon as much as he said, we're not talking about spoilers. We're keeping it relatively quite light. This almost counts as, like, a spoiler.
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Yes.
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And I've already kind of said a bunch of things anyway. I'm just not being very spoiled.
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A movie weirdly enough.
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No, because we're going to stop talking about it after we stop talking about the Dick.
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Okay. Yeah. I love that he's in the shower and they're just having, uh, a chat. And the way that, um, the full frontal scene kind of comes about is very organic, because Matt Dylan just hands him a towel and he grabs the towel.
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Yeah.
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And I guess they had done several takes of that particular scene or of that particular shot. And it looks like I read somewhere that every single shot it was covered, his penis was covered. And then there was one where it wasn't. And John McNaughton's like, I like this one, though. This one's the best one. And Kevin Bacon originally always had a non nudity clause in his contracts as well. And he's the producer on this film.
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Okay.
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And so, uh, John McNaughton had to go up to him and show him the shot and ask him, is this okay?
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So hold on, hold on. Kevin Bacon is the producer on this film.
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Correct.
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So he thought the thing was fucking trash.
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Correct. Okay, well, he thought it was trash, but there were so many twist attorneys that he was like, I'm interested. And it was the first film he'd ever produced.
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Okay. Yeah. We've all got to start somewhere, I suppose.
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Yeah.
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But again, this is Kevin Bacon. Like, he can fucking do whatever the fuck you want.
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Absolutely.
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At this point, it doesn't matter. Yes. Okay, carry on.
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Okay. So McNaughton goes, okay, I got your penis this shot. And Kevin Bacon's like, oh. And he asked them. He goes, well, how does it look? And they go, It looks great. He goes, that's fine. And that's how Kevin Bacon's penis ended up in this movie. And he said that I guess if he hadn't agreed to, uh, have his penis in the movie, then he would have had to have sued himself.
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Wow. Okay. That's like some Wild Things Twisty tourneyship right now.
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I know.
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He's like the defense and the prosecution.
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That's right.
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Yeah.
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It's funny that he was just like, how does it look? They're like, It looks great. Good. We'll keep it in. Whatever.
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Yes. I'm not going to say it looks terrible.
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Fair. And he said, I'm glad the water was hot.
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Yes. Because it can shrivel in the cold.
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You know, that's why I'm in Florida as George Cassandza would say, I was in the pool rinkage.
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Another Seinfeld reference.
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My first one today, to be fair.
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Yeah. No, I'm talking from episode to episode.
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I'm going to make a reference from every single Seinfeld episode throughout the course of these podcasts.
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So his Dick is very much an incidental thing.
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Incidental penis. But very much makes sense.
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And people, uh, it's because the frame is wide enough for us to see it.
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Yeah.
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Otherwise we never would have seen it. And it's not like you see it for a long time either, because he gets the towel on and everything is kind of there. But I like the fact that in this scene, the way that it pans out, and obviously they're conspiring, uh, with each other on this whole plot and stuff, it's literally a case of like, hey, I'm, um, naked fucking deal with it. And it's kind of Matt Dylan is just like, yeah, that's his deck.
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Yeah, there it is. It's fine because it's fine.
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Yeah, it may be different. I mean, I don't know. It's like the men's locker room mentality and things like that. You see all sorts of decks. Certainly that is something I've not had to experience until I started going to the gym here where you see cock, just constant amounts of cock. Like, it's insane. Yeah. You want to feel comfortable. But I have seen some cock and I'm just like, right, okay. I'm still very much of the mentality of, like, you're not really allowed to do that back home, like at the swimming baths and stuff like that. It's kind of frowned upon to be like, someone would take your side and be like, no, don't do that. Like, cover yourself up or put a fucking towel range or something like that. Don't fucking show me it.
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Well, there's a lot of things going on in the men's locker room at the YMCA.
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Oh, yeah.
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There's a lot of things going on.
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And I'm not knocking the YMCA. I think it's just like, it's an eye opening. It's a new experience for me.
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Uh, yeah.
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I don't know if I was ready, but I think I get in there and I get myself straight out again because I'm not dealing with it. And I'm not a small man by any stretch of the imagination. No one's going to fuck with me in the locker room, that's for sure. But courtesy, uh, decency. And I don't want to ruin the rest of my day. That's why I kind of book out there as quickly as I can, even if I'm still slightly wet. I'm like, the Florida air will dry me. I do not need to see fucking balls and deck climbing against thighs any more than I need to.
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Much older men.
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Yes. Everything starts to SAG the older you get.
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Tell me more in detail. Drawing a picture.
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Everything starts to hang a little bit lower as it goes.
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It happens to the best of us. Right.
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Unfortunately, private takes its toll.
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Ouch.
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Yeah.
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I have one thing to say about this scene. This Kevin Bacon scene, our full frontal scene. But there was another scene shot that they cut out of the movie. And it's something that we discussed when we were watching the uh huh film yesterday where we thought this was going to go because I obviously had forgotten this movie where Matt Dylan actually gets into the shower with Kevin Bacon and they kiss. They shot that fuck off. They fucking did, right? Yeah. You called it too.
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Yeah, I did call it.
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But it didn't happen. They cut it out of the movie. But I guess Matt Dylan was saying that that, um, was shot and he was ecstatic that they took it out because he's like, it's too much for a film that's already a lot. It was too much.
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Yeah. Because certainly the chemistry between them, there is a bit of chemistry between them as the scene starts and then you see where it's going. Uh, and I was like.
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I would have bought it. I was ready for it.
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Yeah.
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Probably like getting in that shower.
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Hell, yeah. Probably. I would have taken it. I mean, I wouldn't have been.
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So would Matt Dylan. Yes.
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I'm just kidding. I don't know. It depends who's your sloppy party bottom. Like, who's that one true. Don't even answer that question.
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Okay. I would have loved it. It would have been cool. Yeah.
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I love the fact I called it as well as we feel really happy with myself. Jesus Christ. It means I'm, like, on par with the screenwriter of Wild Things.
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That's right.
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Yeah. And I don't know where to take that.
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I don't know either. Yes.
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I don't know. There's a batch of pills in the bathroom covered. I'll just have a look at, uh, them.
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What the Tums. He odd on Tums. Jesus Christ.
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How does your husband go? Oh, it's a horrible way to.
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Go. I can tell you some fun things and it'll see if it'll jog. Any particular scenes.
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Yes, if you want.
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To. Um, apparently when they were filming in the Everglades, you might have read this as well, but they had to stop shooting because there was a dead body floating in the water.
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Like an actual dead body.
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Okay. And so they had to call the police. And the police were like, super cool. They're like, hey, you're filming a movie? And they're like, yeah, they're like, okay, no worries. And then they just took the body and dragged it in the water over to the dock and held the dead body in the water so they could finish filming. Oh, wow. And then they dealt with the crime.
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Oh, sure.
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Okay. Yeah. Also there were a bunch of tornadoes, apparently in the Everglades. Um, and it almost destroyed a bunch of their trailers.
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Yeah, of course. Storm country.
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Oh, yeah. And I think, uh, they filmed it in the summertime, which is rough.
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Um, yes. Then why is it not sweatier? It doesn't make any sense. It should be like seeding fucking heat.
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They're all a little bit too matte.
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Really wet.
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It should be a little shinier.
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Yeah. Lots of bugs and stuff. Like, it should be really.
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Stinky.
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Yeah. Uh, I can understand that. The thing is, just because they found a dead body in the Glades. Right. Doesn't necessarily mean that it was a murder. Because if you get lost out there, if you find yourself there, you're more than likely going to die. There's no help coming to you. You're not wrong. It's like the wet desert. There's no way, um, anyone is able to find you or get you past.
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Yeah. When I was working out there and no one told us that there were going to be water moccasins and none of us were wearing snakegaters, and we realized that if we did get bit, we would most likely perish because in order to get out from where we were, it would take about an hour and it would take God knows how long to get to a hospital if they had, like, snake antidote. Anti venom.
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Antivenom. Yeah, that's what they call it.
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Yeah.
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Snake potion. Well, you could have got your Gators from Horse for Less.
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Oh, yeah.
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Just like that's a really popular store. Yeah. She got her shoes from Horse for Less.
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Such a stupid thing to say.
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Yes. Because we never see her shoes. And when we do see your shoes, they look relatively quite practical, so I don't really know. Yeah. Weird school kids stuff that kids say. I know Denise Richard spends mhm pretty much, um, like the first part of the movie being like, Innuendo Town. Like, that's all she's talking about.
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She walks up to Matt Dylan and this other boy and what does she say? Something like, Can I be a writer? No. She's like, Can I play too? Or is it just for boys something. Yeah. What are you talking about?
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What are you accusing me of now? Yeah, it's like, what so weird? Very strange. Yeah. And she wants a right. She's always wanting a ride. Aren't we all the Lombardi? Can you just give me a ride? Yeah, I guess so.
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Yeah. Did you know that Robert Downey Jr. Was initially, uh, going to be cast in the role that Matt Dylan ended up getting? Okay, it was right around the time where mhm, he was going into rehab. And so he was weirdly, like a hot ticket in Hollywood, even though he was like a hot mess. And so everyone's like, oh, we want Robert Downey Jr. Because he's a fucking mess. And he's like, no, guys, I'm in rehab. And also, I guess it's the studio or the insurance company was like, we can't insure, um, this guy.
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Yeah.
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There's no way he's a hot mess, poor thing.
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Yeah, well, he'd already done. He'd already done Chaplin, and he'd already done. I love Chaplin. He'd already done US Marshalls, because he's, um, in that movie as well. Yeah. He could have played the secretive Scumbag relatively quite.
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Uh, well, yeah, he's great, but made Dylan's pretty good. He's just a straight up, Scumbag looking kind of person.
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Sorry. Yeah, my boy Matt. My boy Matt.
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Sorry, Matt.
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I I do like Matt Dylan.
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I like Matt Dylan too, but he has a face of a. Yeah, he's trustworthy. Yeah. Like there's something about Mary.
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Yeah. He's an actor, so he's able to do these things. I guess the last thing I saw him in properly was the Paul Haggis Crash movie where he plays underlying racist, but he's also looking after his Infern father. That movie. The racist movie. Uh, racist car crash movie. Not the sexy car crash movie.
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Yeah. Give me the sexy car crash movie.
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Yeah, I'd rather have the sexy than the racist. Yeah, I think most people would say that. Really? You don't want to be mixing your racism with your sex. That's not going to do you any good.
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No. Do you remember when we were getting ready to we were making dinner last night and we're like, all right, we're going to watch Wild Things, but we weren't quite ready to get our head into it. And then I had read that there is an episode of this show on Hulu called Pen Fifteen 15. I think we had watched one or two episodes before. It didn't really grab us too much. Yeah.
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The first three episodes. So we had the pilot in the first couple.
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Yeah. We didn't fully embrace it.
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I couldn't get past the fact that they are grown women playing very young verses of themselves surrounded by children.
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Well, when we watched this episode called Wild Things, which is why we watched it, I, uh, loved it. I thought it was hilarious. Very funny, very strange. Yes. But this episode, it was basically an older cousin is able to rent with someone else's Blockbuster card a copy of Wild Things. And it's just like, oh, my gosh, we rented Wild Things. You got to come over and watch Wild Things. And everyone's like, oh my God, this little kid, he says, oh my God. He's uh, like, I watched it in the theater and I jizzed everywhere. Like, what the fuck? Yeah. So gross. But the episode is very funny. I would recommend watching it, but it reminded me of a bunch of your friends wanting to watch something that you really shouldn't be watching.
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Yes.
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And it reminded me of an incident when I was thirteen, 13, and the Varsity Blues had come out.
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Okay.
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Do you remember, like, the whipped cream scene? No. Okay. It's like James Vanderbak and he goes over to his girlfriend's house.
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James Van Der Bee.
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Yeah. And she is going to give him a gift. And the gift is her boobs. Uh, I suppose. And she puts whipped cream on her boobies. And a little cherry on it, I think. Enough. I'm remembering this. Right, because I have not seen this movie since I was thirteen 13. We went and saw that, but told our parents we were going to go watch You've Got Mail, okay. In the theater. So we bought tickets to You've Got Mail and snuck our little thirteen 13 old butts over to Varsity Blues, which was very crowded and very busy. But You've Got Mail was not very crowded and very busy. Okay. And apparently we didn't time it properly, so my dad came to pick us up, went and couldn't find us. We're not standing outside. Uh, he's searching for us. And You've Got Mail. Obviously, a bunch of thirteen 13 olds are not sitting watching You've Got Mail at whatever time of night this is. And he found us in Varsity Blues. Wow. He was furious. And my dad being this, like, wearing leather mustache, Harley Davidson sunglasses, motorcycle Papa, like, fucking terrifying.
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Yeah, it's pretty scary. It can be scary.
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And all my friends are like, oh, no. And of course we're in trouble for watching Varsity Blues. I've got tons of weird stories about me doing things I wasn't supposed to do when I was little and then inevitably getting caught because I'm not.
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Uh, good at it.
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No, I don't have any accolades except for this film. I think it was just a scene between Denise Richards and Nev Campbell was nominated for Best Kiss at the MTV Movie Awards but didn't win. And now that I'm saying this out loud, I don't know who won.
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Oh, wow. Okay. That's a shame.
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Yeah. Weirdly. This one didn't win after all of.
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The. You mean all of the, uh, shiny media hype? Yeah, for sure. Yeah. Who cares? Really? Like the scene in general and all that sort of stuff. And as it kind of happens and things like that, it's not as sexy as you remember. No, it's kind of just what it is.
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I only have one more thing I want to mention. What is that? Uh, that the guy who did the music for this. George S. Clinton. Yes. Not to be confused with the funk musician George Clinton. Okay. Did the score, but he also did all of the Austin Powers movies. Okay, good. And he did the nineteen 1995 Kombat movie.
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Fuck, yeah.
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Uh, hell, yeah.
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Right? Yeah. Good for him.
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The score to this movie is awesome. The soundtrack is really good, too. Yeah. Semi Charm Life. You can't have a movie in the late ninety 90s having Semi Charm Life in it. Okay. You don't remember that part? I can't remember.
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No. Yeah. Well, I guess the problem is with semi chart in life is it like it dates.
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Everything.
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Yeah, it does things. Yeah. Like Bleach tips and all that sort of thing when guys would.
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Like, comb their bangs down. Yeah, like that.
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It's like they're begging for the two 2000s to then they realize no, the two 2000s is just extension of the ninety 90s.
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It doesn't get any better.
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It doesn't get any better.
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More frosted tips.
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Yeah, technically, it hasn't got any better.
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Now we're in the twenty 2020s are dressing like that again. That's how bad it is. Yeah. Like, don't wear clothes that looks like you're in friends.
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That's why everyone is so emotionally fucked up, is that they do not have an identity. They have got nothing to lash themselves onto. I am so fucking furious with everything. I don't care what it is. I hate it. Yes.
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I feel like that when I wake up every day.
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Yeah. It's like every time I get onto film Twitter and I'm like, fuck.
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Uh, would you recommend this movie, Ryan?
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Yeah, it's a product of the time, so I kind of feel like anything like that you should, uh, be interested in seeing at least once. Yeah. It's silly. It's a little bit sexy. Always good to go back and be like, well, actually, no. Denise Richards and Nev never scored on each other again, did they?
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I don't think so, no. They were talking about doing another film with John McNaughton and the cast, but it never came to be.
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Well, there you go then.
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So it doesn't matter. No one's chomping at the bit for more mhm of this. Apparently, even though they did have the three sequels, but completely different.
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The only thing is it was successful, so they're going to make sequels up to something that's successful. Doesn't mean if it's any good.
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It wasn't that successful. Okay. Actually, I don't have the numbers in front of me, but it wasn't like a box off it's blowout. I think the first weekend it had high numbers and then just fell off. Sex. Yeah, it was the home video release that really bumped it up.
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You were talking about Kevin Bacon's little home video, the saucy video he shoots in the bushes while, um, they're having. My God, they're having rumpy. Rump in the pool. Love.
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A bit of voyeurism. Kudos to Kevin Bacon. Okay.
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What? That's fine, because it wasn't Kevin Bacon doing it.
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Kudos to Sergeant Ray Duquette.
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Yeah, there he goes.
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Better being creepy as hell. Yeah, well, and then he films Denise Richards and Nev Campbell, like, making out the pool and then takes it to work, uh, and then plays it on the TV at work. His boss is like, dude, you can't do this. He's like, it's illegal in so many ways.
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Yeah, well, he's just standing there, he's got one hand in his pocket, he's holding the remote, and he's just watching it because the TV is mounted on the wall in the corner of the room and he's just like, sitting there watching it. Hand me like, see, it's evidence. I see. I told you. You don't believe me, do you? No.
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You're wasting your time. Stop. My God.
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So funny. Would you recommend the film?
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Yeah, definitely. And right now, as of the recording of this episode, it's on Netflix.
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Yeah. There was no warning on it. It, uh, was like going away by the end of the year.
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So it should be there by the time that this comes out and all. I usually write on the Instagram and stuff and that you can still watch it places. Yeah, I'll continue to do that. Great service for you people.
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Look at that water service. You're very welcome. So ratings, I guess.
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Ratings. Oh, my gosh. Okay. So I, uh, gave the film three and a half. So did I, because it's good and it's better than I remember. So three and a half.
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Yeah. It's silly.
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It is silly. And I think silly, it helps that when they filmed it, they didn't take it too seriously because it's goofy as hell.
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Yeah. There's some, uh, silly nonsense going on, but it works.
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I don't think you could play that's completely straight. It's a little bit off the wall.
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Insane.
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It's an insane premise.
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Yeah. No eyes, but, yeah, it's kind of one of those, I would say.
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Like, it is what it is. Um, for the frontal scene, I didn't write it down, but I think from what I remember, I gave it four because out of your visibility in context, it's great. Yeah, I don't know. I have no issues with it. I think it's great being there. I think the story behind it, behind the scene in general, is very amusing as well.
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I'm just going to say that I agree. Okay, good. Yeah. We got anything else to kind of say on it other than the fact that he's in the shower? He's naked. He's there.
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He had said, because people in interviews, especially when he was doing the press tour, uh, in America, all of the people were like, oh, my God, you're naked in this movie. Well, and they're like, how did that happen? He goes, Well, I've never taken a shower with a swimsuit on.
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That makes sense. That makes sense.
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And the European audience has never asked him about it at all because it's normal. Maybe not most parts of the world, but at least to a European audience, like a man being naked in a movie.
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It's not strange. Yeah, it's not strange. Well, the thing is, they've got more of an idea of balance and sexual freedom and stuff than they do in, uh, the US and certainly the UK film markets.
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It's definitely, uh, something that we've talked about, especially you have brought up that it's more, um, American views on nudity and sexuality and stuff is still based in a bit of puritanism, which Kevin Bacon has also mentioned that America is quite pure in that way. And so it's always a bit shocking to, uh, them.
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There's a sense of innocence and stuff like that that I kind of feel like people are harboring. They're just not ready for it. Uh, yeah, I'm ready.
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That's why we're here, though.
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Yeah. And then also that kind of sort of ideal. That's like what got people burned at the stake as well. So don't get too hung up on it.
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Oh, dear.
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The stiff upper lip, certainly, I would say from the UK still exists very much. You think the stiff upper lip. Yes.
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In terms of nudity.
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I think nudity. And I think just in general, like this stuff upper lip. What about. I've seen it more prominently over the last few years in the UK.
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What about that show that we watched that's just on regular TV where it's like that dating show where you get people naked and then you rate them and you go on a date based on what they're shown on channel four.
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One of the channel four, like cable channels at like one or two in the morning. Okay. It doesn't count.
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Well, that shows hilarious.
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It's also a little gross.
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It is gross.
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That's the kind of nudity where I'm like.
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What'S that show called?
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Do you remember, like Naked Obsession? Um, or Naked The Naked Truth or some naked dating dating show? Yeah. I don't know. I can figure out if you can because we were going to talk about Free the Bacon as well. You forgot about it.
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I know I didn't forget about it. I'm going to bring it up right now as we are closing this out. I don't know if anyone I hope that you've seen this video on YouTube called Free the Bacon, where, um, Kevin Bacon is advocating for more frontal male nudity. He wants to see more wieners balls and butts from the men, which is super funny, especially coming from someone that has more of a reputation for being nude than actually exists.
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Yeah.
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But Kevin Bacon is an absolute gem and very funny. And it's worth watching that video. Um, we're going to start using that hashtag again for the Bacon.
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We can. Yes. Um, well, I don't know. I feel like he's either stumbled into it in such a way that he felt the need to either parody or make a joke of it, because I don't know. He's making a joke of it because it is such a big deal. And it harkens back to things I've said about the depiction of stories like that in mainstream media where they make a bigger deal out of it than it actually should be. Definitely. Because I don't see male nudity as this secretive elephant in the room like storytelling device.
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Right.
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Um, I can understand it being segmented off in terms of like a ratings board idea where if you're going to show a Dick, we obviously can't show it to the children, but at the same time, it shouldn't be so curtailed off in such a way where there's this massive disparity between showing male nudity and female nudity.
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Right.
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Definitely.
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Yeah. So I don't know. I appreciate what he's trying to do and it is very funny, but I need more of that.
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Well, I mean, two, 2022, and at the end of two, 2021 been so much more buzz and heat about male nudity to such an extent. So I feel like we're in a very serendipitous situation where we're covering it a little bit more strictly. I would also say that we will be taking a lot of that stuff with a pinch of salt, because I feel like it draws more eyes than it deserves. For the most part, I feel like it's a cheap ploy to get people to read articles depending on how they're written.
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Absolutely. Because it shouldn't be the forefront of anything. It should just be part of a whole. It doesn't need to be the.
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Uh, focus because male nudity and cinema nothing new. No. If we think about history and stuff like that, depictions of the penis in history and you'll be able to tell that more than I can, it's definitely not new centuries penises. Yes. So that Channel Four show was a show called Naked Attraction. Right. And I would say, if you want to go seek, uh, out, you can. If you're from the UK, you one 100% have seen it or heard of it at some point. For the most part, I find that this thing is a bit gross.
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It is gross.
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And we watched an episode and it was real gross because it's just real people who are naked. But that's the thing.
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It's a funny thing that that show exists because that show would never exist in America. Yeah, absolutely not.
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No fucking way.
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It's not like a blurred out show. Like, they're naked people. Wieners, there's balls, butts.
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The only thing is they don't show the person's face until the last part of the attraction cycle.
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Right.
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So they show you the Bush or the genitals. They show you the chest and stuff like that.
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And then you have to pick them based on how attractive you find. These guys are these women naked bodies.
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Yeah. They're bits and bobs.
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And guess what? Spoiler. It never works out. They go on a date and they end up fucking hating each other every time.
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It's all about personality. Yes. The biggest Dick does not respond to maybe the best personality, let's put it that way.
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So talk to each other first.
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Yeah.
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Find common ground.
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Yes.
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But also keep making that show is funny. I'm not going to watch it again. It's gross.
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But, like, watching it in general, it's actually a little bit boring.
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But anyway.
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Okay, who cares?
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On that note, thank you, Ryan, for joining.
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It's over.
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Me? Yes, I'm finishing this. I don't want to talk about Wild Things anymore.
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Uh, no.
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Okay, that's fine. But we'll see you guys again, um, soon. And make sure to share, uh, it with your friends. Rate Review You can do it on Spotify, uh, on your Apples, on your Internet, whatever catches on Twitter.
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Catches on Instagram, mhm on the Beats.
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Yeah. And also, um, send us more movie recommendations or things that you've seen that maybe we haven't covered yet or that you didn't see on the website because we've been getting emails and we've been getting DMs and I just fucking love it.
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We do have at least two 200 on the docket right now oh, God.
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Yeah we're pretty much set I still like that for a while I still like to get them because there's sometimes people will send us some that I didn't know about so I can put them in and we can watch them yeah.
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Let'S be fair if you're an audience listener and you're listening to us on a regular basis, then make yourself known because as it stands right now, I don't know if we have an.
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Audience. I see the numbers we do but yes, I would like to hear from more people Well.
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I'm the frontman I'm the one who puts all the art and the stuff that people see and they see all the design. You're the person behind the scenes who's dealing with all the maths yeah, because I can't do.
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Maths I'm the one crunching the numbers yeah.
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You'Re the one adding the four downloads we had this week with the two downloads we had the week before yeah.
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We'Re busting those numbers up so fucking listen to us if you get those numbers then they're fine and I thank you for that but yeah, send us more.
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Messages.
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Uh, coming to you from the Glades motel nice um, I've been Laura Ryan see you next time you all.